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Do they not count XL not getting his 2nd foot in as a drop? In a true sideline toe tap type of catch, I don't think it should be ruled a drop as that's just a difficult play to make anyways. But when he's just catching a ball in stride and takes 2 full huge steps as he's catching the ball so that his 2nd foot comes down out of bounds, to me, that should be considered a drop, as your below average college WR would have been able to get their 2nd foot down in that situation.

You aren't going to make any headway. The image attached with that post amuses me considering there isn’t a player or coach that hasn't or won't get thrown under a burning bus to deflect blame from #9. If the kid was showing flashes of brilliance throughout his 31 career games that would be one thing but the majority of them are either historically awful or mid.

Steve Wilkes would not be having that poo. Shoulda kept him at HC and gotten some really good young coordinators.

I could argue how wrong this is from our game but yeah my mind immediately went to the Titans as well. This stat line is not correct.

Fox sports tracks drops as well.

when that little fuker plays a good game (and he will); I am going to cheer my azz off for him; ( because i am a panthers fan), BUT he stunk it up yesterday! no ifs, ands or buts

They aren't WRs though. I think the OP is just about wide out drops

most likely it's because the league doesn't think we're a team, much like the nba does with the hornets. Which we are one in the same.

lol no, nuh uh, you loved this draft last year i don't wanna hear it. we got the receipts.

Just an FYI, it says this at the top of the page for advanced receiving stats, so they may not be fully updated yet. "Advanced stats are updated the Wednesday following the week's games. The advanced stats shown here are updated through week 0 of the 2025 season"

Nope. I like Tepper because he really does want to win. Badly. I like that he's rich and is more than willing to spend money to improve the team. I like that he didn't fire anyone when he first bought the team because he wanted to sit back and learn. I like how much he's invested and uses analytics. I like the Morgan hire. I like the Tillis hire. I like the Canales hire in which he used a private firm (for the first time) for the selection and vetting process in hiring him. I think that he gives his coaches all the rope they want but if they hang themselves he's not waiting around to watch. Tepper and Jed York, owner of the 49ers, are great comparisons. Both struggled greatly until they found the right coach/GM combo to lead the team. I hate that he was so front and center giving fans and media way too much access and photo ops. That was a huge PR mistake, not really a x's and o's error. I hate with so much passion that he hired Matt Rhule and gave him a huge 7 year contract and complete control of the team. I hate that he ok'd overpaying for Teddy 2 Gloves. I hate that he ok'd the trade for Sam Darnold. I hate that he hired Frank . I hate that paying for the best coaching staff that money could buy didn't amount to anything. I hate that he relented and ok'd Baker Mayfield who Rhule made look like complete trash in less than one game only to have Baker go to the Bucs and look great. I hate that he took so much advice from Ernie Accorsi, which, fun fact is where all the Bryce point guard stuff came from. I don't think he forced us to take Bryce but if he did I don't care as Bryce was the top rated QB in that draft by the vast majority of fans, media and other teams. Bryce was the top QB on the Texans draft card. I love Stroud and had him just ahead of Bryce as 1A and 1B. There were pro and cons for both and no really knew if either one would be successful but everyone agreed both were top prospects. Since they were both so close in potential it's more luck which one we ended up with. Bryce could just as easily been a Texan therefore it only matters in hindsight which one was the "right" choice and despite how great a rookie year Shroud had the jury is still out on both.

Converting 3rd downs and keeping the offense on the field makes a big difference, especially when the defense sucks.

I agree with the first two, probably would have gone with Payton Wilson over Trevin in the 3rd since we obviously are way worse off at ILB than RB

Canales mentioned something about Bryce smiling more and how reassuring that is. As much as I think DC is a fraud, I think there's something to that. Bryce's footwork falls apart when things are going rough; he's the most Psychiatrists Kid QB ever. I think DC has realized that once bryce starts pouting his mechanics go out the window.

High standards for everyone but the #1 pick you traded up to draft. Is it any wonder this team continues to flounder?

If this keeps up, the org is going to have a big problem in that locker room. I could see one or two key guys asking for a trade.

Maybe he should pull a Travis Hunter and take XLs spot on offense, I bet he would have gotten 2 feet down. Then Fox could show him 472 times on the sideline

Id say week 11 or 12. If we have 2-3 wins max by that point you play hooker the last few games and then he'll play well enough to not draft a QB and then hooker will start next year and be totally ass then he'll be pulled week 11-12 and rinse and repeat. The Panthers will never be a respectable team again as long as tepper is the owner.

Such a good write up, ruined by this nonsense nugget.

Yeah late and under thrown. For DC to publicly say the reason he cut Renfrow from the initial 53 because of conditioning when he doesn't have his QB's footwork fixed also pisses me off now. The only reason he got the HC job was to fix Bryce yet he's reverted back to the same issues he had his rookie year

I counted 12

I guarantee it makes a difference. Give up 2 scores and its basically over until garbage time. The offense can barely drive the length of the field in 3 quarters. The defense has been gutted to build around a QB that is possibly the biggest bust in NFL history. For what we've put into the offense the past 3 years, we should be dropping 30 bombs with regularity. The only 30s we get are FGs.

Not according to some fly by night fantasy crusader! There were 10 drops that should have netted Bryce another 450 yards and 7 TD’s

What? Am I mistaken that his rookie year included a horrible coaching staff and support players. It's wasn't just Bryce. I won't judge any player from that yeah. It's impossible to make an accurate assessment on any player under those conditions. It's that simple. You break down each play and look at each player, what the expectation was, what happened during the play and what circumstances affected every player and position. There a reason why the narrative was he could be the biggest NFL bust in history. Then after his benching he started to show remarkable improvement. Thus all the talk from fans and media about how dramatic of a turnaround it was and that Carolina no longer had a QB problem. First game this year the whole team stunk it up. Why? Plenty of blame to go around including Bryce. Improvements do not come it a nice straight line angling up. I think Sunday was a step back for the whole team. Still plenty of time to see if it was a bad outing to grow from or another indicator of issues that can't be overcome.

Reading a lot of this brought me back to memories of a guy I loved watching as a kid when he came back and dominated, almost in a “Linsanity” type of way, but for football obviously - Doug Flutie. I’ve always loved an underdog. I’m a sucker for those stories and characters. And the league essentially forced Flutie out the first time around, from memory, mostly because his coaches felt he didn’t fit the proper QB archetype. Not big enough, not impressive enough, etc., so he went to the CFL and dominated for years. Came back and signed with Buffalo to give it another go in the NFL and became a pro bowl QB. His teams were competitive and fun to watch. And statistically, I guess unofficially, he was the same size as Bryce, but you couldn’t tell… Flutie could sling it, and when he ran, he ran with conviction. But my point in bringing it up, as also evidenced by a guy like Russ in his prime, and although supposedly slightly taller, also Brees, and to a lesser extent Kyler Murray… small QBs can be successful. I specifically bring up Flutie though bc he wasn’t viewed as prototypical and he improvised a lot, which was supposed to be one of Bryce’s strengths. Flutie scrambled around a ton and extended plays to get throws off, and although not crazy accurate over his career, again, he played with purpose, and when he did throw it looked NATURAL. My issue with Bryce is, it doesn’t. Dan is harping on about his timing and footwork, and finding that rhythm, but at some point, you would think your natural ability to anticipate and throw would override all that other poo. Again, it sounds crazy, but if you took any semi-athlete or former athlete off this board, and had them throw with a receiver for endless hours over a few months and say, “this is a 5 yard hitch route.” As Dan showed, an imbecile sees the corner is backed up off Tet. We know the route. We’ve thrown it a million times. So when he takes his last step into the upward part of the route, we should be throwing it to that spot before he even turns around. But nope, we’re sitting here hyperfocusing on some bullshit footwork trying to find reasons why he can’t do the simplest fuging poo a QB is tasked with. At some point, it’s over analyzing. Either he can or can’t, and he’s shown he can’t. Everything else these analysts are doing is searching for excuses for him. Any QB worth a poo could turn their whole lower body into a pretzel running the opposite way of the play, but when they recognize the read available to them and the throw they need to make, they square their poo up or at least maneuver themselves in a position to allow their upper body to do what is required to make the throw. Bryce has not, can not, and will not.