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It happens all the time. But this team has a propensity to whiff more than others. I’m hoping the new scouting staff and those other nerds Tepper hired will cut some on that.

Sam is still Sam. He basically does the same thing every stop. Carolina. Minny. And now Seattle. Good starts and people think he has evolved....but Sam always comes out. He came out in Minny. Coming out now in Seattle. And people were claiming was going to be league MVP a quarter of the way through the season in Carolina.

I would to see who the top 25 shake out before I say who they have a shot at. I usually have that already figured out by this time of year. But this year’s Panthers have somehow managed to make me forget about the draft because they are playing meaningful football. I didn’t see that coming.

I meant Canales not tepper.

IIRC, Bryce was lobbying for him. After selling the farm to get BY, Dave was wiling to do whatever he could to save face. No a bad gamble on pick #32, it just didn't hit. There's still time for him to turn it around. And hopefully Dave is out of the decision making business and in the check writing business.

I too watched the game with my son. We had an absolute blast. I think I may have fractured my thumb along with losing my voice during the game. It was all worth it. I just got home actually. Best Christmas gift I have had in years.

The panthers traded back into the first for XL. Thats not a player “for the future;” thats someone you need to contribute right away. Especially at the position for the panthers at the time. they just fuging whiffed

Exactly my point.

I disagree his time at SF backing up has unlocked a new level to his play. The Vikings regression and the Seahawks resurgence are proof in the pudding

Which is why you draft based on results instead of "potential". Coker lacks "40" speed and went to a small school, but all he did was catch passes! Set just about every WR record there was at Holy Cross and has become a verry important part of our team. XL, on the other hand, had 1 good year out of 5 at SC and is mediocre (at best) in the NFL so far. I'm not calling him a bust yet, but I don't have high hopes. Honestly, I'm not sure Tremayne doesn't pass him on the roster if both keep trending in their current directions.

As someone has already pointed out, there is a worry that Styles looks so good because he plays next to Arvel Reese. It may not matter because i'm seeing mocks with Arvel Reese no. 1 and Style long gone by our pick. We may need to focus on the ILB from UGA.

The Vikings also changed the most important position in football that should change the algorithm

What's wrong with the current DC?

Nope I’m just stating facts, Bryce has his flaws but the roster around him is even more flawed. Idc how great the QB is it’s hard to put numbers where your best weapon is a rookie.

You're assuming just as well. Morgan and Canales were hired 3 days apart. I believe it was partially due to their connections in Seattle. i believe Tepper wanted some familiarity with his GM and HC. It is so easy to sit back and arm-chair QB over draft picks. You don't know what the philosophy was going into the 2024 draft. I believe Canales and Morgan were drafting for the future. XL and Brooks point to that philosophy. Name me one GM that is 100% on draft picks. Just one. You're not going to find one. I think year one picks weren't for what can you do for me now but Potential. XL hasn't lived up to the hype of a 1st rounder. I think we all can agree on that. However, there still is hope he comes around. What I believe they saw in him was his speed after the catch. He needs to get more consistent but when he gets the ball you kind of hold your breath just a second because if he gets free, he's gone. The Brooks pick was a signing for the future, and no one could have guessed he would re-injure the same ACL. This makes the pick look bad but Dallas was ready to draft him later that same round. IMO we'll have to see what happens next season before we can call this a bust. Wallace has improved each season and for a third rounder has done well. Sanders has shown flashes and considering the pick in the 4th round it wasn't a bad pick. His sophomore season IMO was a little bit more productive. Smith-Wade has been a good addition and has played well. For a 5th round pick to get as much playing time as he has. Most picks below round 3 should take a couple of years to get up to speed. He's been a decent player. Crumedy, no comment We turned Barrett into Jackson. This was an amazing move and basically got a starting CB for a 7th round pick. Pretty shrewd if you ask me. Coker, maybe the best Free Agent signing of the 2024 draft class. So, in short, you can't say that the draft was a bust. It isn't a home run but all but one are still on the team and outside of Brooks have made contributions to wins. 2025 draft class has been much better with almost every pick making contributions this season. Now take Fitterer's two years and compare them to Morgan and tell me that they have the same philosophy.

He hasn’t led crap, he’s on loaded teams and a piece of the puzzle. And he’s he has improved drastically but it took the ultimate QB whispers in Shanahan and KOC. You put him on this Panther team and he’s back to normal Darnold

Slavin and Jarvis week to week. Florida cheap shots took out our two best players. I’d start KK so he can beat the brakes off someone.

The only thing I said was he was part of the staff that made part of the decisions, and that I am judging the decisions made by that group as a whole. As assistant GM, you can pretty much guarantee his input held more sway than an intern or the guy that takes coffee requests. Fitterer didn't operate in a vacuum. Neither does Morgan now. While Fitterer did have the ultimate decision, to say that Dan had no input in ranking boards, evaluating FAs, trade offers or anything else would be asinine. We all know he did. Otherwise what the hell was his job as assistant GM? He wouldn't have been kept for 3 years if he was arguing every decision Scott ever made. And the actual quote was "Morgan has done a bang up job in the draft and FA. Compared to what the last guy did, he is kicking ass and taking names." So is XL kicking ass and Brooks taking names from last years draft or did I get it backwards? We took Wallace over Payton Wilson because he was an injury risk after trading up for a RB with a torn ACL? Which one of the kicking ass and taking names was that? Maybe we should review the thousands of gameday posts calling for XL to get off the field because he's a bust and can't catch a cold. We could review the posts about Brooks but... And Wilson. He's at 118 tackles this season vs 36 for Wallace. I gave credit to Dan for a good draft this year. But I'm also not ignoring last year's draft either since he did that one after the last guy too. That's not a strawman.

And then, in week 18, we can take Mayfield out of the game and whoop Bridgewater's @$$ for good measure! Let the former QB revenge train roll on!!

If we keep our guards in tact ($$$) and go with Mays at C, some OT depth would be nice. I think we should be happy about CB with Thornton's development (pre injury) and Smith Wade. I think Ransom is developing nicely, but I would like to see a FS type for situations. We suck at ILB and Edge (as a whole). We should be OK at RB. I hope we sign Dowdle to a short contract. QB? There are signs of hope and development. (I don't like our backup QB) TE? Good draft for TE, but I think we are developing with Evans, Sanders, and Tremble. WR? A #2 with Coker and Horn in the slot. XL? What is that? We should be good in 2026. Morgan does more than draft. Free agency has been strong too. (Just emptying my brain on your comment--sorry)

Seriously came here to say this

I know Didn't i reference the cheifs? They are also 11-0 in one score games its regression to the mean, I was simply stating I'm resigned to the fact we likely are stuck with Bryce and I hope when we have a pass rush we won't be in as many one scores lol.

Early in the year Yosh struggled against pass rushers. I think the Bucs being bad at pass rushing made him look better than normal on Sunday.

It’s also just better athletes at the position.

that is how I see him. He gave up some pressures (a sack too, I think). But he has looked good last few times out. He's about to turn 30. The thing to do is lock up your Left tackle for the next 4-5 years. Lewis and Hunt are on this roster next year, based on their contracts. I don't see them going anywhere soon. Hunt would create $10m in dead cap to cut him in 2027--only $5m in 2028. These deals are likely to be reworked when Bryce is re-signed. I think we need to look for a stud C (I like Mays, so it is not a priority) and a RT to groom behind Moton. Nothing in days 1 or 2, however. A free agent or a day 3 draft pick at both spots. That leaves us with WR, Edge, and ILB as the primary needs. I see WR and Edge as the top positions in this draft. 1. Edge 2. WR--expect Edge in the first, but if the right WR is there, we take him. Do not underestimate Coker's development. I think he breaks out, and Horn could become relevant. Still, a true #2 is needed.