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Murray has failed athletically and mentally. Can’t believe this thread is this long.

They're all in the same ballpark as far as targets, Marshall a little less, Mingo a little more, so no need for apologies, X is still arguably more productive. Targets aren't the greatest indicator though, and they're certainly not representative of an overall picture. Just saying.

I mean, I don't know about realistic options that are "considerably better," but I do think that there are, perhaps, more intriguing options. I agree 100 percent about Bryce though. It may not be right from a win-loss perspective, but I'm over Bryce and don't wish to see for another season under any scenario.

I think this is getting some wings because of Dan Graziano. He mentioned us kind of in passing in an interview. Murray will likely be released (not traded) in March with a post June 1 designation, as the contract is trade repellent.

Also Mac Jones is fools gold imo, Kyle shannanhan makes every qb under him look competent, also not the biggest fan of his attitude and on field antics

Why would we want another midget at quarterback...

I mean I'd take Kyler and Jameis for $10M each and draft someone on day 2 or 3 and have a real camp battle before watching Bryce for another year, Kyler isn't worth more than that at this point, fair price for jameis and worst case scenario it would at least be entertaining win or lose

Id rather Trevor Lawrence if we're trading for former 1st overall QBs with massive contracts

I am well aware, especially considering how many more targets XL has gotten in that timespan. Hence why I have apologized to TMJ and Mingo so often.

Scrap a shorty and bring in another shorty who is also made of glass.

Young. He’s trash, and that’s been apparent since his first year.

TMJ 3 years 808 yds 1 td Mingo 2.5 years 585 yds 0 td XL 1.5 years 678 yds 6 td Not comparable

If the alternative is this dumbass FO running it back with Bryce then yeah I’m all for it. But there are plenty of other realistic options that are considerably better

Rough season again in terms of win/loss, injuries, etc. what’s new but holy hell this rookie class is absolutely incredible so far. Love Kon, Kalk and Sion. not sold on Lee as coach and even as a huge LaMelo fan, if we can’t count on him to stay on the court we gotta get a haul for him while we still can. Brandon I’m willing to give more time to see if he can stay healthy as he’s got the makings of a stud but not looking amazing for him either so far last year and this year.

Kon Knueppel is sensational for a rookie and he's still learning. Even though it's going to be another long sesson at least this years draft class is a home run.

I agree with you. Bridges is the guy you trade.

Kyler sucks that would be the worst move possible.

That boy Kon is the truth!

Kucci's always best when you get some rhythm going! I wish people extended the same grace to Kucci that they give to Freddie... Coming off a long injury rehab, and basically not playing in 6 months, Kochetkov's numbers are better by virtually every metric. But, PK's the problem... lol

It would be like playing with Russian nesting dolls, but in reverse. We'd keep collecting the next size up until we had an average size QB by 2057.

Step 1: Bryce Step 2: Kyler Step 3: One reasonably sized trench coat Step 4: Victory

100%. Don't get stupid. QB's this draft will be plentiful.

Kyler is the exact situation we want to avoid with Bryce Young, that new contract for below average play because you are scared to move on. I would rather sign three different guys for $30M total and let them duke it out rather than pay Murray $35M per year to look like Bryce on steroids.

Falcons out for revenge for game one Panthers looking to rebound from last week Which team will be more up for the game

Rather just draft drew allar or something the 3rd or 4th and pray we get lucky then lose draft capital on kyler and not get better.