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Nope, I was being straightforward. You on the other hand tried to talk about gas lighting while combining sarcasm which just made your take convoluted at best and at worst just straight gas lighting.

I think this is the first game of the season where I won’t have baseball on at the same time. It’s hockey time now.

Yeah The King of Pop is a serviceable #2. Better than JAG level IMO, but playing across from a no-fly zone, he's going to get picked on

Having Bryce as a QB is a hindrance to a reciever like XL. Andy comes in and suddenly he's capable.

fug it. We are elite too. Maybe the best team. Maybe. Why not go 2-0 over the next two.

Hey, I'm lost, and I sure as hell don't feel like listening to a vid of conjecture and projection based on one game, but...Even if dude didn't come right out and say it, if he's saying that X can have those types of games more than not, he's basically saying it. Just curious as to why you have to hear it explicitly. My thing is is that a 1000 yards has been kind of the benchmark for receivers by fans and analysts for at least two decades now (though I could argue that we probably need to set a higher expectation). That being said, all a receiver has to do across 17 games is average approximately 59 receiving yards per game. I don't think that's an insurmountable height to reach even for a WR2 in many offenses. In one of these threads, someone was saying X has averaged 29. That's an unacceptable number. Bless him if he can average 92, because he'd be getting more than 1500 (going on 1600) per season. Why someone would think he'd be able to do that under Bryce and a team that needs to run, I don't know. Maybe I do need to listen to the vid.

I thought the Charlotte Hornets and the Tinderbox were pretty much the same thing...lol.

Canes were 2-0 against Dallas last year; 0-2 the year before. It's been pretty much back and forth between the 2 teams back to the bubble year when we played them 8 times. But they have a pretty decided edge over the years.

Jackson over performed last year so some of this might just be regression to the mean.

It's hard to take any of this seriously when major sports leagues are in bed with sports betting companies and the whole thing has become commercialized and intertwined with social media and being hip trying to get as many people as possible into becoming gambling addicts. I mean the government created RICO to go after the mob related to gambling but now it's fun for the whole family.

When my grandfather was in high school there was a pack of cigs on everyone’s desk the first day.

Yea basically here please get addicted. Here’s a hotline you can call so we can openly try to get people addicted. Don’t get addicted though but here’s some free money to get addicted.

I would imagine that with a choice between going after Horn or Jackson, people are gonna go Jackson. So him having the most burns tracks with that. Two words: Pass rush.

Back in my day! But seriously, it is shameful what it has all become, and it’s only going to get worse.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46683459/2025-nfl-offseason-tiers-32-teams-best-worst-signings-trades-draft-barnwell Slightly above expectations Highlights: Trading WR Adam Thielen, signing RB Rico Dowdle (one year, $2.8 million), drafting fifth-round TE Mitchell Evans Disappointments: Re-signing CB Mike Jackson (two years, $10.5 million) The Panthers chose the right time to move on from Thielen, who had been productive in Carolina before being dealt to Minnesota just before the season. He has been lost in the shuffle there. While the Panthers won't see the fourth-round pick that forms the bulk of the return for Thielen until 2027, getting out from what was owed to a player who has 47 receiving yards in Minnesota is an easy victory. Dowdle has been a revelation since moving into the starting lineup after Chuba Hubbard's injury, becoming one of a handful of players in NFL history to produce consecutive 200-yard scrimmage games. The former Cowboys back was averaging 3 yards per carry before the opportunity, so I'm not sure I would count on him playing like Jim Brown the rest of the way in a rotational role alongside Hubbard. But it's hard to argue that Carolina hasn't already gotten its $2.8 million worth out of the 27-year-old back. Most of Carolina's biggest moves are either tracking to be right around expectation (drafting wide receiver Tetairoa McMillan) or have been impacted by unexpected injuries (signing defensive tackle Tershawn Wharton). Jackson was a pleasant surprise as a starter in 2024, and he hasn't been terrible this season, but most of the big plays against Carolina have come on throws against the former Seahawks cornerback. Overall, though, this has been a very reasonable offseason for the Panthers

How would you have taken the guy who was picked ahead of us? That makes no sense.

I am not denying that things were said. That wasn’t my point. But carry on this will go nowhere. Oh snap, the post calling him a liar was like three posts before you jumped in. what do you get, a post a page?

AND The gambling and FF talk have made the pregame shows unwatchable. Between them trying to do their stupid little skits, talking about money lines, spots about so-and-sos hard life and lack of support from their drug addicted mom, and pushing fantasy football bullshit. They dont talk about Xs and Os But that probably a different soapbox

okay I didn’t hear it last night and I turned the captions on and scrolled through the video twice. With no luck seeing 1400 yards go by. Do you remember where in the timeline it was that he said that?

You’re misinterpreting. The past 2 pages have been calling this guy a liar and “deliberately obtuse” while over analyzing the use of the word “cheering” as the basis to call him a liar and say things never happened lol. Did it not happen at all or are they just comments and jokes in poor taste? Is this guy a liar or an internet autist who just can’t rise to the level of your nuanced message board dialogue to come to a reasonable conclusion about what anybody means by anything they’re saying?

I dont have a problem with sports betting per se People want to bet on sports so be it. I have a deep problem with the gambling platforms sponsoring the sports they are taking bets on and the white washing of their predatory practices with some small print in the last 3 seconds of their commercials No you are not getting $200 of free money to gamble with...

I mean c'mon

I am not saying what I would or wouldn't want us to do because it isn't draft time. My general rule is that if a draft has very strong and deep classes of a position, you target those. BPA, after all. So if those "need" positions fall into that, fine. But we often as an organization ignore these things and reach in drafts that have weak classes at specific positions. Hence why I don't agree with your philosophy for the most part. It's easy to understand the "need" part. But needs shouldn't lead to rash decisions and poor drafting. The past decade has been a textbook example of that here in Carolina. Ignoring BPA and reaching for need more than vice versa. With hefty amounts of "smartest guy in the room" syndrome, which has been a massive accelerant to the dumpster fire. We just aren't going to agree on draft strategy. We don't view team building the same way.

Damn y’all are gonna make me rewatch that now because I can’t believe anyone would seriously present that as a projection.

"Their" defense. Correcting myself