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  2. The age thing, I think it works in the sense that people used it with DJ Johnson and XL still being raw. That they should have it by that age, but don’t, is a red flag. Also competing against 20 year olds, they should have an advantage which could disappear against grown men. That is a valid concern. The flip side is the guys that are 24 but are ready. I see nothing to scare me off of them. Heck you get a more mentally mature player too, most likely. Maybe you get a quicker transition. No redshirt or apprentice type of year.
  3. I've only ever considered it possible for 1, maybe 2 if pinned inside the 10, deep balls per drive. The play is just too big. A new deep ball can be completed in under 2.5 seconds. That just isn't right.
  4. It’s out there to look up. There is a definition. It is so convoluted and broad I got frustrated before I could finish it. It just seemed wrong to me. I think the words they choose for the names of these stats are the bigger problem than the stat itself. Because there were things in that definition that I thought to myself “how is that big time?”
  5. yes. I never paid much attention to these stats until people started using them to tell me how great Bryce is. When I have watched every snap he ever took and look at video during the week, and can objectively see how ‘great’ he is, what his throws look like, the whole thing. The stats criteria is just misleading to faulty when you look at it. That doesn’t reflect on Bryce, I can’t see how it does. It is directed at the criteria being used to evaluate him. And others. No joke, the game casts now call a 16 yard TD a deep pass - I can only surmise it is because it went 4 yards deep in the end zone making it a 20 yard throw. Who among us, all being likely lifelong football fans, grew up picturing a 16 yard TD pass as a deep ball? Anybody? It is just not a helpful stat, it is absurd. There is no stat for 30 yard throws. Nor for 40. And so on. And they are generally more demanding throws. Say your QB nailed 4 35 yard throws in a game and my QB nailed 4 20s. Should they be rated equally as deep passers off of that? Tell me my guy is has the best rate on 20-30 yard throws instead. Break it down. To call 20 yards and everything past that the same thing? Why would you do that? I mean, calling a 20 yard pass a deep ball, is like calling Bryce tall.
  6. all I know its a throw and not a completition and lol at folks coming at posters for laughing like hell about this. I mean we all have eyes
  7. big time throws, has that been objectively defined or still just a made up stat?
  8. If you restricted the content of your reply to opinions on the subject rather than insulting g the people who post something g you don’t agree with, I wouldn’t say a word. poo is unnecessary.
  9. I don't hate Bryce. I hate the narrative. And the reason I hate it is if Bryce was on another team, doing the same things with the same results, we'd all still be laughing about the stupidity of that same narrative. And part of that narrative is that you can have 4 "deep ball" passes on a drive and still be on the opponent's 19 yard line barely in the red zone. That is just beyond stupid.
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  11. 4.5 games out of 6th and Philly 3 games out of 7th and Orlando Hornets play both one more time. Also have two left vs Miami and down 2.5 of 8th. I think the 6th seed is entirely possible with 26 games left and only back 4.5 games.
  12. Nobody save for one or two idiots actually wants Bryce Young to be a bust. But the blinders and bafflingly low standards people apply for a fourth year #1 pick are both comical and embarrassing. Then you have folks complaining about what they claim is toxicity and then turning right around and being toxic while trying to claim the moral high ground. This is why the huddle will always be entertaining.
  13. He's definitelyore talented at throwing picks, and that's saying something.
  14. I personally think there is a glut of talent in the lower half of day 1 and day 2. A trade down would be my ideal scenario if we can get a few more 2nd and 3rd round picks.
  15. absurd stuff is just that. That PFF stat is absurd. You should be able to point out the PFF thing without folks claiming Bryce is somehow being unfairly attacked because of that. Bryce has positives. The "haters" have even pointed those out pretty consistently. But the flaws are still the flaws and the absurd PFF stuff is still absurd.
  16. He got better this year. But he was still overall bad. It's about the incredibly low physical ceiling he has.
  17. I don't think think anyone is actively rooting against him. Okay, maybe some. But Bryce seems like a really good dude. I don't see you anyone could view the person negatively. But this ain't about that. This is about whether or not we truly think we can compete for SBs with Bryce Young at QB. I don't. Especially if you give him a legit starting QB contract.
  18. Bryce had a good playoff game but Taylor Heinicke has had a good playoff game too. He's improved but calling him the best deep ball thrower in the league is just laughable.
  19. You are overgeneralizing talking about every Panther WR that didn't make it. Calling the guy an idiot is lazy and assuming. And I said it wasn't worth bringing up real points because people like you would be lazy and generalize like a scorned woman. Thanks for not disappointing. He and Coker came into the league the same year. Who was producing in the Seattle game when we passed for 54yds? That's not excuses, but facts. In the playoff game, he smoked a corner off the line of scrimmage just like the Atlanta game and Bryce didn't go to him. I don't consider it an excuse if the QB doesn't look your way or limits your opportunities. Like I said earlier, TMac and Coker are better at making chicken salad out of chicken shite. Don't act like you haven't seen the passes thrown that require extreme contortion or athleticism like jumping five feet in the air to catch. Also, they said in the video he could stand to get closer with Bryce. TMac and Coker have better relationships on and off the field with Bryce. That matters, anyone who has played sports knows that. I said he needs to hear Cam and that means strengthening the relationship with the QB your organization has now.
  20. Oh there are posters who actually do both to me, and call me a Bryce homer when Stevie Wonder could read my post history and see that’s not the case. I treat those on here the way they treat me. Perhaps instead of only reading a reply you should consider the reason for the reply.
  21. This is the second, at least, comment in here that is personally attacking people who criticize Young. Calling us things. Questioning our intelligence. The other one was “miserable losers”, think. It is telling, that I don’t see any from the Bryce doubters insulting your intellect or character. Speaks for itself. Which saves me the trouble of insulting you.
  22. I like a lot about Bryce. But I also understand why Dave doesn’t trust him. I really think he’s going to get better despite the physical deficiencies.
  23. do not let him fool you. he is pure ass. and his face is crooked. that coaching staff can protect a QB for a game or two and give him easy reads.
  24. Yall hate on Bryce for every little thing even his positives , so much so, Yall converted me back into pulling for him lol . damn do yall not get tired of crying about the same poo and pushing the same narratives?. We heard yall crying all year with the same argument it’s old now . Move on. You don’t have all the answers
  25. Here's the reality of the situation, Bryce's "development" led to him having these rankings in his third season... Passing yardage: 21st TDs: 16th INTs: tied for 6th most in the league Completion percentage: 24th Yards per attempt: 34th Passer rating: 30th QBR: 26th There's just no way to objectively look at the production and conclude anything other than he is an overall well below average NFL starting QB. We're not talking about a down year here. We're talking about people wanting to hang their hat on this as some sign that he's the answer when the numbers are absolutely screaming the opposite. The difference with any of these vet QB names being thrown around is that no one is pitching these guys as the answer. If they turned out to be a la Jake Delhomme that'd be awesome but I haven't seen anyone trying to sell that as a likely scenario. We just want viable competition at the most important position in the game.
  26. The US Men's team must be feeling pretty confident going into today's game against Latvia. The top line features Eichel in the middle with the Tkachuck brothers on the wings. All the depth on the roster and that's what they came up with?
  27. If Morgan feels that we are getting to the point that we don't just need quantity anymore, but we need more quality, I'm ok with this move.
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