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Nah dude he won an OPOY there and dominated on the way to an OT Super Bowl loss. What did the picks we got even lead to? Bryce isn’t panning out

Mike Davis almost went full DeAngelo. You never go full DeAngelo.

Those seasons, our offensive wasn't as good as it could have been because every play was basically, "give the ball to CMC" While CMC did perform well in that circumstance, he could have been so much better if giving him the ball wasn't 80% of our play calls

People also were just pending over their backs to defend everything about Matt Rhule. I think the lack of reporting/eyeballs because of COVID made that defense possible because there was really no way to know what was going on in house then given how limited things were. I think going into that next season when camps were back open to the reporters, with Teddy's messaging in my mind, it was pretty glaring how in over his head Matt Rhule if you wanted to see it. For awhile it was always some else's fault. Teddy was the idiot. Then it was Joe Brady. Took folks longer than it should of to be like.....oh wait, it's the head guy running the show that doesn't know what he is doing. I also don't think Matt Rhule is the villain some want him to be. I think generally speaking, most of Rhule's players liked him as a human. He just had no clue how to do the NFL thing. Tepper just can't get it right. Rhule was the HC that needed Jim Caldwell/Capers. Then he gave that to the HC that didn't need it in Frank. But I do think through all the hires and fires, you can see evidence of Tepper trying to get the puzzle.

https://youtu.be/b-vcKF2W3VY?si=_MUtjbHxmzwbJCsk Here's a longer segment of the show for more context.

Listen to the clip, it doesn't come off nearly as serious as the print makes it seem. I'm a fan of Raw Room, and this was a great episode. Mike was telling a lot of stories from all his teams. https://youtube.com/shorts/5RbNRdN9d4A?si=o3N0FKr3nc-gkpWW

He should be salty. When called upon he was the driving force for the most successful run we've had since 2017.

Someone is salty they didn’t get playing time.

Mike Davis is like yeah, why would these coaches expect me to watch film on our next opponent if I'm playing good. Yeah, I really don't pay attention to a lot of stuff around me if I'm doing good. also Mike Davis, how dare they give all the reps to CMC. from just listening to that interview, I think Mike Davis likely was often in Mike Davis' way and he can't comprehend that aspect. Even his story of why he hated people.....was weird. He hated Steve Spurrier because Spurrier was like hey Mike, Marcus Lattimore left...and we need you to step up into that role/void and be more for us. And Mike Davis was like, can you believe that motha trucka!! Nah Steve. Just give me the ball and leave me alone (paraphrasing it all obviously but that was the gist).

Unless he's 1,000%, just sit him an extra week at this point to let him get his legs back under him. I want to see him out there as much as the next guy, but this was a serious thing and I'd rather wait an extra week than put him out one day too early and risk something going wrong, play the long game for once.

God, these posts are really starting to piss me off If we're relying on Moore, Idzik, and Canales to carry that weight, then we're royally screwing over our young WR room. It's not that those guys can't help with some of it, but these young promising WRs are going to miss out on a lot of learning that can only be provided by the vets on the team. You do realize that coaches spend ZERO time in the locker room, right? They are only in there just before games and at halftime, but the rest of the week, they have their own locker room, they only spend time with the players on the field and in the film room. There is soooooo much time that you're leaving unaccounted for where players are working together to get better. Players are constantly talking about their game and how they can improve while they're in the locker room. If you think career long special teamer David Moore is going to be able to carry that water in the locker room, then you're sorely and woefully mistaken. Even beyond that, if a coach pulls a player aside to give advice between series, that still means there are 4-5 other WRs who aren't getting individual advice, where that's normally a time a vet like Thielen is going over with them what he's seeing out there and how they can do X, Y, or Z to do A, B, or C better on the next drive.

We picked the wrong team, and there's no fixing it. That's why I became a fairweather Chiefs fan.

I love hearing Panthers stories on different podcasts but honestly Mike Davis just seemed really salty and whiny in general.

Nice call

There's a bizarre fondness the fanbase has for CMC, but I was absolutely thrilled when we got rid of him and still maintain that, at face value, we absolutely fleeced the 49ers on the trade, especially if Bryce Young pans out. They got what we had. Someone who was great in stretches followed by long stretches of injury.

I mean...he was the starter and on passing 3rd downs, I think I would want CMC coming out of the backfield. The only issue I ever had with CMC was those short yardage downs when they sent him up the middle.

Was it a cmc thing or the coaches decisions to keep him in and using him over and over?

If he’s a knockoff Jahmyr Gibbs, I won’t have any problem with it. I’m also thinking his injury history would be significant in contract negotiations.

Sure, when you just make up stats.

Well, I mean, if he just hit the line and produced two yards a carry that'd be a problem. Like Mike.

And of course I had to poo this. It’s an online message board. It ain’t that deep, it’s supposed to be fun. We’re supposed to banter, we’re supposed to have nemeses. And when it comes to petty misguided radicals like yourself I’ll poo you every time and buy you a drink in person.

Sounds like a better coach would properly sub his players and overrule a ball hog. But you know Rhule was an all time candy ass.

Rivera has never had a winning season anywhere without Cam Newton and Cam Newton would have made the playoffs in NE if not for Covid.

I think they’re called ‘coaches’. Many (not all) were players, themselves. Having both veteran players and coaches that can pass that knowledge on to younger players is the ideal. Thielen did that well from the limited anecdotal evidence we read and the recent Coker interview. If Renfrow can be brought back onto the active 53, he can fill that role, too. If not, we’ll just have to rely on Moore, Idzik and Canales.

There’s a reason this guy bounced around the league and his career ultimately sputtered into nothingness.