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I'm not even going to argue with that. But if Bryce throws a pick forcing it to TMac there with Horn running open underneath... Just realize that some folk will never like this kid. Always finding his fault if even remotely possible. Blaming the placement of that pass would be like blaming Stafford for the Puka drop earlier in the game. I mean it hit him in the helmet. He should have thrown it to his chest.

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The burden is to spin three years of data, not one game. And this one game does spin those three years. He played well, no one will argue that. But losing your way into the playoffs doesn’t mean all that much. Simply look at the QBs left in the playoffs. Yes they are hard to find but they’re not all anomalies. You have to find one of that caliber to win your way in and keep winning. And in looking at three years of play, not just a game, Young is not that.

At this point as fans I think we have to put any trade scenarios out of the realm of possibility. I feel like the only way we move on is a release and that is only contingent on him having a truly dreadful season. Unfortunately my gut tells me we are staring down the barrel of a long term extension so long as he has a marginally decent season. That's how far we've lowered the bar.

Please explain how we made the playoffs with a “very bad roster” that is at least three offseasons away from being good.

Word is there have been conversations about Vinny coming back. It would solve our 2C problem, but still a smaller guy

Ghost is the PP QB and, statistically, the team's best PP producer.

Rooney rule most likely evero statistically improved but still poor on 3rd and 4th down like to see stats on redzone too

He's moving up. Top round2/end round one as of now. If he has a good combine, he'll be a 1st rounder.

Gruden it will be. QB job Cousins to win back. Not great in first round, this draft is.

I'm actually not against bringing Ned back. He has proven himself to be a reliable 1b. He might honestly be the best option on the market.

I'm not the biggest fan of EP. But, word is out already that Vancouver is willing to consider significant retention. It'd probably end up being closer to $6-8m per. The talent is undeniable and at that rate, it might be worth the risk. Idk if I'd give up any major assets, though. Too many better fits out there to put all our eggs in EP's basket.

No 1st round pick and no QB. Not ideal.

Ok correct. The only thing easily found is the second part of that offseason which was 1 year 5.2 million after the original 1 year ERFA which combined became what you stated

atlanta actually finished strong--it is a good job for a new coach--but Penix is not attracting anyone--interesting. I expect them to hire Jon Gruden. Heard it here first, I thunk.

It damned sure fell off a ton without DB last year.

I'm not High on Petterson hes a ghost in the post season.... and isnt going to help fill the physicality gap.

The lack of consistent ball placement has been a point of contention here and for good reason. This season Young has a 16.4% bad throw rate. That's the best of his career. For comparisons, this year CJ Stroud is at 17.6% and Caleb Williams is at 20.7% so Young is more accurate than both of them. Baker is at 15.7% but for his first 5 seasons, he was between 17.9 and 20.9 so while slightly behind Mayfield currently, he is better than him at the same point in their respective careers. Saying he is inaccurate is simply untrue this season. I don't necessarily fault Horn here because as I said in previous posts he never should have been in that position. To me, that's an insult to Horn but that's besides the point. Against the Dolphins, the Panthers faced a 4-5 with 3:31 left in the game. Bryce hit Horn for a 17 yrd completion picking up the 4th down and leading to a score for the win. So I don't understand why you wouldn't think he could do it again. As far as the ball placement, every analyst and former player I have heard has stated Horn should have made the catch. Not one of them has said a thing about the pass being bad or that Bryce should have thrown it better.

Nadueu will end up being better than Blake in the long term IMO, he is a PURE goal scorer and IMO is a future 30+ goal guy easy... Basically what you said if I had to trade one bye stank.

Makes a trade tougher on our cap doesn’t it? All guaranteed money becomes due the instant you trade the player. Pretty sure. But not 100%, I plan on looking. I remember looking last year when he was benched. Drooling over the possibilities lol. I know a release allows the post June 1st designation.

You think that changes if the only difference is he leaves? I think the die is cast already. Some of what Morgan has said leads me to think that Morgan is not 100% down with the constant prevent and wants more pressure.

Honestly if the goal is getting past Florida I'd love Shenn and Tuch, a second line of Svechnikov-Schenn-Tuch would give us a ton of grit and physicality.

No one even pretends to expect first round qb production from bryce anymore. The goalpost has moved to him being better than an unknown free agent.

Good one.