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I like Jaycee a lot and appreciate his leadership but to say he's above Ramsey right now is based on hopium let's be realistic. He's got a great deal to prove this season. I’m hoping to see that he firmly establishes himself amongst his peers.
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PFF raves about our draft. The best class in the whole draft?
WhoKnows replied to Panthers Rhule's topic in Carolina Panthers
It’s amazing how simple it is. When you are winning 2-7 games for 7 straight years, you’d think people would understand that just drafting some starters isn’t poo unless they are above average NFL starters. Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase started their rookie years like Legette did so we got an elite WR in the 2024 draft. Luke was a rookie starter just like Wallace. Damn we basically got a Kuechly and Jefferson last year. Bravo Dan Morgan!!! -
PFF raves about our draft. The best class in the whole draft?
WhoKnows replied to Panthers Rhule's topic in Carolina Panthers
I didn’t even say they would be starters. I don’t think Legette will be and Coker was not drafted. Coker chose to sign with us because our WR room gave him a chance to start even though we drafted a guy in the 1st. That should tell you something when Coker chose to come to Carolina even after we took Legette. We drafted and signed guys to potentially replace Sanders, who isn’t a starter yet over Tremble) and Wallace. Go look at our other drafts since Rhule. We had tons of rookie contribution from all of our recent classes. Why, because our overall talent sucked and we needed bodies. Go look at PFR. Here’s some of our players who “started” for a year: TMJ, Mingo, BC, Ian Thomas, Jermaine Carter, Dennis Daley, YGM and Roy. That’s what Legette and Wallace are right now although unless TMac bombs, Legette has kind of already lost his spot. We’ve had shitty drafts since 2018 and every single one has contributed at least two guys who’ve started so 2024 is tied for last right now and we just had a draft where we took 3 more players who play the same position as 3 of our top 4 picks in 2024 but somehow I’m saying that the 2024 draft class is good? Nope, the 2024 draft class was bad and our team is still in the low enough talent quadrant that lots of rookie contribute in our holes until we replace them. Been the same story since 2018 and accelerated as the old solid vets retired/move on. -
Jaycee LOCKDOWN Horn is due for a breakout year
PNW_PantherMan replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Well let's hope so, because he's already getting paid like it. -
There is a difference between being at 100% and playing 100% of the games. I don't doubt Moton has some significant wear and tear, but that may not force him to miss games. TBD. Either way, it's highly unlikely that would be a net positive result in replacing him with BC, unless Moton is completely unable to perform in 2025.
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PFF raves about our draft. The best class in the whole draft?
Shotgun replied to Panthers Rhule's topic in Carolina Panthers
I want us to draft players that can start and contend on a winning teams is all. -
Yeah I have to disagree. Your take is why we drafted him over other options for sure. Last year they attempted 58 % pass vs 42% run. That's not a run first offense and DC has never really even done a run first offense ever...even of that's what he has said he would do. In that case Ickey needs to keep improving but if he hovers around where he has been then it's hard to justify a top LT contract for a run first LT IMO.
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Veteran CB trying out for Panthers
kungfoodude replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Horn has yet to be better than Ramsey to date. I am sure that will change eventually but Ramsey is still(including last season) a better CB than Horn. I don't think you will see Miami move on from Ramsey this season anyway. The cap hit would be pretty extreme. That is a more likely move next offseason. - Today
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How long before we hear a Tet Offensive reference in a broadcast?
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Jaycee LOCKDOWN Horn is due for a breakout year
AceMan replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Need him to become DPOY to justify picking him over Surtain Jr. -
Jaycee LOCKDOWN Horn is due for a breakout year
kungfoodude replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
I am not convinced he will ever really shine under Evero. -
Icky's pass blocking has been a work in progress since he's entered the league, but this team is also looking to have a balanced, run-first offense. It's difficult for me to put such a premium on his pass-blocking with that in mind. If his run-blocking stays in the top-15 and his pass-blocking grade climbs into the top-30 then he's gotta be retained imo.
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The Athletic's "Undrafted Player to Watch"
kungfoodude replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
It does seem like there haven't been a ton of good centers come out recently. Luckily for us, we passed on every one that DID pan out at least once in their respective draft classes. #TepperMagic -
BC is what he is, a backup caliber player. Hence why this offseason when he was available, there was basically zero interest from the other 31 NFL teams. I am glad to have BC back as a valuable depth guy but he would get his lunch eaten as a 17 game starter. That's why he is still here as a backup. He is not anything close to an answer at LT or RT. If we move on from Moton and/or Ikey, there has to be a valid replacement.
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Xavier Legette is the face of the NFL at the Kentucky Derby
jfra78 replied to LondonderryPanther's topic in Carolina Panthers
You really don't know. XL could be a 1k 10 td guy next season and Tmac could get 400 and 1td. It's totally plausible. -
Jaycee LOCKDOWN Horn is due for a breakout year
LinvilleGorge replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
I have no concerns with him on the field. All of the concern is about how much time he's had to spend off the field. -
Yea I don't think most people were calling DeAndre Hopkins "Nuk" either.
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Go for 1200 yards and 10 TDs and I’ll call him whatever he wants.
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I just don’t see Nalo catching on with the general public. I’m sure it makes sense for his friends but it feels forced from my perspective. Tmac is just a natural shortening of his name. Tet feels most natural, imo, as is evidenced by basically everybody naturally just calling him that before they are told not to. Imo, mama bear should just get over that one, but hey it’s what moms do. If he is ok with Tet, as he said he is, I think it’s fair game. Either way, if you have to take a poll on a nickname, I think that is an answer in and of itself.
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I never called Tomlinson LT either heh
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