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Just chasing targets is a fools game. Chase averaged 85 yrds and .76 TDs per game his first year and 87.16 yrds, and .75 TD's per game his second year. Statistically the same. NOT an improvement. Puka saw no increase either. Yes, Waddle's went down because he had to share targets with another receiver - just like TMac will have to share targets with Coker next year so you have actually just made my point concerning Coker. Olave saw an increase in targets but Carr replaced Dalton and even with the increase in targets, his production was pretty flat (83 extra yards and 1 more TD for the entire year). And Wilson's number did increase but the Jets replaced the other two receivers and their contribution was significantly down from Davis's and Moore's. Again, nothing in those numbers should lead anyone to believe there will be a big leap for Tmac next year.

See my previous post. You're also leaving out that T-Mac was likely hitting a rookie wall, like 95% of rookies do late in their first season, combined with the added attention on him by defenses, which in turn would be why Bryce looked Coker's way down the stretch. With Coker playing like that to start next year, defenses will have to pay attention to it, which will then also make things easier for T-Mac. All of which is also ignoring that T-Mac will just be a better player next year than he was this year, assuming he works on his game this offseason, which we all know he will be. If a player who was already your clear cut #1 comes back even better his next season, you're going to make sure you're throwing it his way more often, no matter who else you have. Again, Coker's added targets won't be at the expense of T-Mac's, they will BOTH be taking targets from the rest of the team. Not to mention, we should be passing it more next year to begin with, seeing as we'll have both of them hopefully ready to go full speed Week 1, which again, will help both their target totals increase. Coker looks like a really good player, but even the most optimistic person can't say he looks like he has #1 potential, he has very solid to maybe even high end #2 potential. You're not taking targets away from the reigning OROY who looks like a true Top 15 WR already to get your #2 targets, you increase both of them by taking from the others.

Need to crush the hawks tonight. A lose would really damage momentum

Sorry, but this is a terrible breakdown that doesn't at all show what you're trying to say/project about T-Mac next year, as it leaves out key information that changes everything, it makes the opposite point that you're trying to. Chase missed 5 games that second season after playing all 17 as a rookie (and still saw more targets that second season). Puka it looks like you projected his stats out to a 17 game season (as he only played 11 games), but even still , when you have 160+ targets as a rookie, there isn't really much room to get any more the next year. Waddle saw an increase in yards, and sure, his targets went down, but he played on a team with a better WR that year who saw 170 targets for 1,710 yards during that 2nd season for Waddle... something T-Mac doesn't have to contend with on the same team (280+ targets for their top 2 WRs, if you don't think T-Mac would see more than 122 targets if him and Coker combined for 287, then you're nuts). Then Olave and Wilson both saw an increase of 19 targets in their second season. You basically just laid out the reasoning for why T-Mac should see at least 20 more targets next year, if not more, which would be a solid increase and put him easily into the Top 10 most targeted WR next season.

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Not to take anything away from Tmac, but I disagree. Here are their stats showing Tmac's numbers prior to Coker and then once Coker got up to speed. I don't know how you can look at those numbers and still expect Tmacs numbers to significantly increase. Again, not taking anything away from TMac, but having Coker means you do not have to forcefeed Tmac. I think Tmac's catch rate and YPC will go up, but it would not surprise me if the targets stay the same or drop a little. That is assuming Coker stays healthy.

Beause you're special

Tepper represented the Panthers organization very well here. I hove him

Here's are some other 1st round WR picks second year compared to their 1st. As you can see, they all stayed pretty much the same. Smith-Njigba is an exception but they brought Mike Macdonald in as the HC his second year which I think explains that. Again, I think anyone expecting significantly more targets and yardage will be disappointed.

It's also possible to go 0-17, or 17-0. I didn't even include our own division in that, with Tampa and Atlanta both equalling our win total, and the damn Saints sweeping us. Double digit wins. Might be more than a long shot. But hey, anything is possible. There is no starting caliber left tackle. XL is absolutely not a top 2 wr. The linebacker group may very well be the worst in the league. There is no pass rush. The top cb may not even be the best cb on the team. And I haven't even mentioned whatever Young is. I know, I know, maybe they will just be better next year! 8 wins, and a struggle to get to that, but somehow a 25% increase in wins should be a given. With what reasoning? fuging magic? It's the Panther way.

This is pretty telling. Why Sexton got traded and they hope White fixes this problem at least somewhat.

Yawn. Hes not white. Not really a big deal.

far they were not perfect I agree on that

Everyone seems to forget that Rivera never made any changes until it was too late.

We shouldve wont a couple SBs, but Rivera was too set in his ways and Shula wasnt creative enough.

Curling ranks right up there with Ribbon Twirling except less strenuous.

Me neither but Nix plus all those trade assets vs. Bryce minus all those assets is a no brainer

More importantly, the owner seems to love him.

What time is the next game? How about that!!!!!!!

Not the biggest fan of Nix. I think he was the weak spot of their roster. His YPA was 6.4 to Bryce’s 6.3 so he had just more attempts and an extra game for the extra yardage. % is practically identical through 2 more TDs. Their ratings are identical with Bryce having a worse QBR. Now add in Nix having the more complete roster and much better play caller (despite how much I hate him). They seem pretty similar to me honestly. Keeping all the assets would best part of this scenario but I’d still feel uneasy about our QB situation.

One interview will not change my overall perspective of Tep but he came across very well IMO. Saw previous comment about the “they” reference regarding snow and did not feel particularly offended as he was talking/relating to a Pitt guy and his statement was valid. just my personal .02. But If u feel or see it differently, that’s ok and understandable by me