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Everything posted by DaveThePanther2008
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For argument sake, cause after all this is a forum. What do you do with BC? You say he's not much of an IOL. Just a backup? Let any name above play OG while Christensen proves himself? If he fails move him to the bench or inside.
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Many do, yes, but that is because the GM doesn't do their homework. Too many good players that slip to the 2nd and 3rd round that shoulda coulda been 1st rounders. Based on your logic the only players that you should be concerned about are 1st rounders. Teams build through the draft with 1st and 2nd rounders as starters, 3rd rounders potential starters and 4th and beyond are crapshoots. You don't waste (Hurney did) picks for stopgap. BC has talent and given the time he will most likely perform well. Like I said if we draft a LT than IMO that is what Fitterer and Rhule thinks best. As long as it isn't some left field player that could be a bust. I just think we could address other needs and let BC play LT. You don't and that's your opinion which I can respect, just don't agree with.
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You're probably right. I think there might be a couple of teams that would bite on a 1st but not many. At this point a early 2nd would be perfect.
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I'm not buying that. Payton was very good at what he did. Though I hated the SOB he was a good head coach and barely missed the playoffs with erratic QB play after Winston went down. I don't think his replacement is going to be anywhere near as good.
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Fitterer has said many times that he would listen to offers. Now that the Watson deal is dead and we've signed D. Freeman and still have Hubbard. It makes me wonder if Fitterer isn't trying to get some draft capital back. Personally, I want CMC to stay but since he still have value we might try to move him. Another shorten season and his value will be minimal. Thoughts?
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Yes, I think our secondary is going to be tough to beat. Well be ranting and raving about how great a pick he was by the end of the season.
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Agreed MH never missed on round one. You shouldn't miss on round one. 3rd round picks are supposed to be potential starters but you have to give them time to develop. BC IMO is our best option at LT considering our other needs and I'm not only talking QB. If we choose a LT than so be it. I won't be screaming on this board, like many do, that it was a wasted pick. I just feel that we have a LT on the roster and if Rhule plays him in at LT he will perform well.
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You should follow your own advice. You want a LT because you feel BC isn't good enough. That's pure emotion because we really didn't give BC a chance. We drafted a LT last year. Brady Christensen and when given the chance (last couple of games) he played well for a rookie. I believe James Campen is going to get him even better. We have other needs that could be filled outside of QB and LT that would warrant a #6 pick.
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You build through the draft. You bring players in and let them develop. You don't continually add the same piece because the rookie didn't make the Pro Bowl. Remember us drafting CB after CB and so many other positions fell through. We are working on Brown and BC can learn behind him or play guard but he should be viewed as part of our future. I'd rather take a QB than Another LT.
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Erving agreed but you have no idea BC ceiling because we haven't given him a chance. He's extremely athletic and could be but no one knows until you give him some seasoning.
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I hope we trade down and pick up another pick in round 2 or 3 or both. Wait for the huddle meltdown when we draft something other than a QB and all pointers point to Darnold starting.
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I hope Rhule is Pissed
DaveThePanther2008 replied to Move the Panthers to Raleigh's topic in Carolina Panthers
Sweet 16. What a story it would be if Hubert Davis took them and won it all. When the Heels are playing well. They are as good as anyone in College Basketball. -
I hope Rhule is Pissed
DaveThePanther2008 replied to Move the Panthers to Raleigh's topic in Carolina Panthers
Wow huge upset. Better watch out the Heels are in a groove. They got upset by a VT that won the ACC tournament. They knocked off Duke and now Baylor. Go Tarheels Sorry Matt but love them Heels. -
None of these moves matter without our franchise QB
DaveThePanther2008 replied to Kraybrothers's topic in Carolina Panthers
I'm not 100% sold on that assessment. He's been with some pretty bad teams yet managed to win. He may not be the answer but he better than Darnold and probably better than any draft pick this year. All these QBs have major question marks about them. Personally I like Howell and think he'll be the best of the group. -
None of these moves matter without our franchise QB
DaveThePanther2008 replied to Kraybrothers's topic in Carolina Panthers
That is why i say trade for Minshew. He's on the last year of his rookie contract and if he doesn't pan out we can let him go with minimal damage. It all depends on what Philly values him at. I say trade away 6 for 15 and Minshew and you can name another pick. You get your QB and still have a good chance to address the line some more. -
Rhule will have no excuse
DaveThePanther2008 replied to DaveThePanther2008's topic in Carolina Panthers
Well that isn't going to happen and apparently Tepper thinks that with a better staff Rhule will do better. So at the end of 2022 someone is going to be able I told you so. Well see if it is "Rhule Haters" or Tepper -
None of these moves matter without our franchise QB
DaveThePanther2008 replied to Kraybrothers's topic in Carolina Panthers
In this draft that is a long shot. -
Rhule will have no excuse
DaveThePanther2008 replied to DaveThePanther2008's topic in Carolina Panthers
Hahahaha you're probably right. -
Rhule will have no excuse
DaveThePanther2008 replied to DaveThePanther2008's topic in Carolina Panthers
Kind of a short history don'tcha think? I'm not defending him but we're stuck with him and hopefully he's on the right track. I, personally, cannot hope we suck just to see him go. Firing him and bring in another coach may or may not be the answer. We've seen teams go through coach after coach and limited success. My hope is he's learned from his past mistakes and improves as a coach. Many on here just want him gone regardless of how 2022 goes. -
None of these moves matter without our franchise QB
DaveThePanther2008 replied to Kraybrothers's topic in Carolina Panthers
Of course they matter and they paid off but you're not always going to have a franchise QB land in you lap. Detroit let Stafford go because he had no chance of winning there. Watson wanted out of Houston and 230 million guaranteed is insane. Brady picked his spot and got another ring. When you don't have a franchise QB are you supposed to just tank until you do? No you have to find a competent replacement until you get lucky enough to land one. No one knows what a rookie is going to bring. Last year everyone had Mac Jones as the lowest rated QB and probably had the best season of all the rookies. In the meantime you build your team to succeed with the best talent around your QB and hope they are good enough to win with them and a good defense. -
None of these moves matter without our franchise QB
DaveThePanther2008 replied to Kraybrothers's topic in Carolina Panthers
I've said this before. You can't run an offense with the line that we had before. Darnold is probably not the answer but when you put ANY QB behind that line he wasn't going to do well. Just look at the 2021 Super Bowl. KC was without both LT and got expose by TB. Their line was abysmal in the Super Bowl and they got destroyed even with Mahomes. Pickett and any QB in this draft has question marks on whether they will succeed in the NFL. While I am not again drafting one. That QB, whoever he may be, will have a much better chance at surviving with a competent line. To prove you wrong, Mark Rypien, Nick Foles, Jim McMahon, Joe Flacco, Brad Johnson, Jeff Hostetler, Doug Williams and Trent Dilfer. All of these players were not franchise QBs but won a Super Bowl because they had a good cast around them. PROVE ME WRONG -
Rhule will have no excuse
DaveThePanther2008 replied to DaveThePanther2008's topic in Carolina Panthers
The only problem you have with that philosophy is that you might not be in a position to get that pick unless you trade away multiple 1st round picks. -
Rhule will have no excuse
DaveThePanther2008 replied to DaveThePanther2008's topic in Carolina Panthers
How many coaches have survived because they had good staff or a great QB. It can go both ways you can survive because you stay out of the way and let your coaches coach or you have that franchise QB that makes you look better than what you are. -
Rhule will have no excuse
DaveThePanther2008 replied to DaveThePanther2008's topic in Carolina Panthers
Had he done nothing he should have been fired this year. I think all the Vet coaches save his @SS. Fitterer/Morgan have done a good job in addressing our offensive weakness. Now there is no excuse as to why we can't at least have a respectable season.
