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Not saying its better but never forget this classic after the Matt Moore Vikings upset. Smitty: "Ya know, 22, little youngster, had something to say so I just had to establish the rules and regulations of the game." Reporter: "Which were?" Smitty: "89. Bottom Line. Thats why he's going home" 89BottomLine has been my Xbox and PS name ever since

Wow, the disrespect. Cant believe they're just going to give away Panthers Legend Rasul Douglas' number like that.

Only thing missing from a full on nostalgia trip to 2015 was a good ole "Google that poo" Welcome back brother. Make sure that helmet is pointed in the right direction.

Would that not make NEXT years pick more valuable then? The argument presented is a a 3rd in 2021 is more valuable than a 2nd in 2022 which is generally how future draft calculations have had these things forever yet your comments are to the contrary. I too agree based on the extenuating circumstances surrounding covid that may not hold true with THESE particular years. I believe it was Rappaport alluding to this as well prior to the draft that we'd see less trades of future picks for this reason.

Also has serious medical red flags that go with him. Blood clots in your lungs are a pretty big deal, especially when there's no in person pre draft visits where your own medical team can clear him. You're taking a massive gamble on a player that could walk away from the game at any time or worse. The Panthers along with every single team in the league, including the one that did eventually draft him all felt the same way. We obviously are comfortable in the group of guards we took, including the one we drafted over him, heading into camp.

I think the expectation is he comes in as a LT. If that doesn't pan out and he turns into a starting LG its still a solid pick. I really like this pick. I dont love that he'll be 25 in September and his level of competition certainly leaves something to be desired BUT this guy is a phenomenal athlete.

Interesting his weakness is listed as being an average athlete. Everything I read and watched seemed to indicate this guys explosiveness at the BYU pro day was next level. Short arms and inconsistencies I could see and the guys certainly could use some coaching up and is already 24 but I like this a lot. Could be a day 1 starter at LT. Based on how quick that pick shot in I'm betting the Panthers brass felt the same way.

Like Taylor Moton?

Really think there's 1 of 3 things ultimately happens and I think the beauty of the Darnold trade sets us up for any of these 3. This gets out and a team behind us panics and moves up to 4-7 for a QB which only pushes talent down. We'd be guaranteed 1 of Sewell, Chase, Pitts or Slater. We get a blue chip player and roll with Darnold. The above happens and spot 8 is now seen as the last spot to move up and get the last of the 5 qbs making it far more valuable likely netting us at minimum a future 1st offsetting any capitol lost in the Darnold trade. Or we simply take Fields because of genuine interest and had no way thought he'd be available without moving up to 3 to secure him. If NY was offered a 1st for Darnold I'd imagine worst case he'd be flipped for at least the 2nd we traded for him if we wanted to jump ship immediately although id imagine they play out the season with Darnold the starter and move one of the 2 in the future for a bigger return.

Appolgies, looks like it was a radio interview. I'm on my phone so we'll see how it goes but here's a link to his radio interview and a screenshot of the tweet. *Bonus* Now theres a tweet from 5 minutes ago that Zach Wilson is going to be a bust too. http://www.charlestonsportsradio.com/2021/04/20/the-mauro-midday-show-4-20-21-hour-2/?fbclid=IwAR0cKFnius1Fv4HYntlp0em22vNAt2hdHPwkE7Pb7_dme2q6D0b_U90nYeU

He also on his Twitter has posted an article detailing why Trevor Lawrence will be a bust. So there's that.

If Pitts Sewell and Slater are gone and a team wants to give us their 1st, 2nd and future first to move up from the late teens for a QB sure... Otherwise I cant say I love this idea but I can respect the team doing due diligence and exploring all avenues.

To be fair... a handful may be lying, just like some may be telling the truth. Assaulting even one of them is one too many. That said, the defense of "Defendants lied about their trauma because they went back to work" is a pretty shitty fuging defense to use. As from day 1, ill wait for all of it to play out before making judgement, something id urge all of you.

Anyone who wasn't there on reddit a week or so ago during the Xbox live breaking news missed out. Thats up there with ruining Adam Schiens Jersey Tournament and $GME as favorite moments on the internet.

DJ Moore is 23 years old. Allen Robinson is 27. Hopkins and Golladay are 28. Just to be clear you're telling me a WR entering year 4 is already on par or close to the level of these guys despite being 4-5 years younger? Thats an eternity in the league, hell that's an entire contract length in the NFL. DJ could sign the same contract Golladay did today and after playing it out would STILL be younger than Golladay was when he signed it. Thats enough DJ slander in this thread. Seriously. If you refuse to see that despite playing with Kyle Allen, Will Grier, Teddy Bridgewater and PJ Walker hes the only WR with 1200 scrimmage yards the past two seasons as anything other than a testament to his potential for greatness theres no help for you.

This has already been addressed in numerous threads. Yes its possible. Yes there's precedence recently and in the past with players looking worse than Sam Darnold in their first few seasons going on to win MVPs, Super Bowls and ending up in the Hall of Fame. Im sure there are more examples but this is top of my head with stats from PFF. 1) Terry Bradshaw 38% completion percentage, 6 TDs 24 (TWENTY FOUR) INTs in 8 starts (3-5) Following Seasons of: 13 starts (5-8) 54% completion percentage 13 TDs 22 INTs 14 starts (11-3) 47% completion percentage 12 TDs 12 INTs Went on to have a hall of fame career and win a few Super Bowls 2) John Elway 10 starts (4-6) 47% completion percentage 7 TDs 14 INTs 14 starts (12-2) 56% completion percentage 18 TDs 15 INTs 16 starts (11-5) 54% completion percentage 22 TDs 23 INTs Went on to have a hall of fame career and win a couple super bowls. 3) Troy Aikman 11 starts (0-11) 52% completion percentage 9 TDs 18 INTs 15 starts (7-8) 56% completion percentage 11 TDs 18 INTs 12 starts (7-5) 65% completion percentage 11 TDs 10 INTs Went on to win a super bowl and have a hall of fame career 4) Drew Brees 0 starts, played in 1 game as a rookie, 1 TD 0 INTs 16 starts (8-8) 60% completion percentage 17 TDs 16 INTs 11 starts (2-9) 57% completion percentage 11 TDs 15 INTs went on to win a SB and have a hall of fame career. 5) Brett Favre Played in 2 games. Threw FOUR passes and TWO interceptions Goes to GB 13 starts (8-5) 64% completion percentage 18 TDs 13 INTs 16 starts (9-7) 60% completion percentage 19 TDs 24 INTs Goes on to win MVP, win a super bowl and have a hall of fame career. 6) Steve Young 5 starts (1-4) 52% completion percentage 3 TDs 8 INTs 14 starts (2-12) 53% completion percentage 8 TDs 13 INTs Goes to SF Proceeds to start a few games for the next 4 years amassing only 10 starts in that time. Goes on to have a Hall of Fame career, win a couple MVPs and a few SBs Other examples of current players or players that aren't in the HoF: Alex Smith Jake Delhomme Kirk Cousins Ryan Fitzpatrick Ryan Tannehill

Guessing 1 year 3.5 mil. Anything under 5 ill be happy. Anything over and ill wonder why we aren't making a play at one of the better vet corners available. Still like the signing. Hope he bounces back to his Texans/Jacksonville days

Whats our barometer in terms of bounce back? Hall of Famer? How about: Drew Brees Troy Aikman John Elway Terry Bradshaw Steve Young Brett Favre Just salvaging into a long successful NFL career? Alex Smith Ryan Fitzpatrick Ryan Tannehill Kirk Cousins Thats top of my head. I'm sure there's others. The fact is there's plenty of examples of players bouncing back after a rough start. If Ruhle is on board with it, I'll proceed with cautious optimism.

Somehow I thought the coffin in the living room would be the most stereotypical "Raiders" thing I'd see. Then we went upstairs. Then the basement. Then the backyard. And now I'm laughing hysterically at the amount of money these owners pissed away with their decor choices.

Based on draft Valuation charts 3 first and a future third would do it. Based on the dumb fug 49ers. Might need to throw a couple future 2s in there with a 4th or 2 coming back.

Mac Jones at 3 will make me spit my beer out on Draft Night and I for one can't wait lol.

Bit of an overestimation lumping me in there with them. Never said it wouldn't happen. Said it'd be the first time in the history of the NFL and I'd believe it when I saw it. I even said I cant believe a team parts with 3 first for the 3rd or 4th best QB. Thats compounded by teams balking at 3 1sts for Watson and Russ. And that's exactly what happened. Nobody says this was a steal for the 9ers. Its an overpay. Besides, still lots to happen at 4 lol. Now if a team trades up to 4 its a certainty.

Oh fug me. Silver lining is 8 is more valuable than 12? Maybe it won't cost as much? Ugh. God damnit.

Bears, 49ers, WFT, Broncos and thats just top of my head. Plenty of other QB needy teams that may not have the capital for 2 - Saints, Steelers, Patriots And of course Houston pending the Watson stuff.

6'2 is huge for him. Weight looks good too. Ton of concern over his size. I wouldn't have been surprised if he measured under 6 foot like Kyler. That frame means he's got room to bulk up. Never a bad thing