Khyber53

Yeah, that oughtta work...

Haven't we done enough damage with Colts mid-season cast offs already?

A lot of truth here in my opinion.

Not sure we'd do worse just trotting four OL guys out there and giving the water boy a 71 shirt to wear and head out with them. This isn't a professional football team anymore. Might be competitive at Division III level. JUCO maybe.

We forged our identity during the Fox years and that first Super Bowl run. And we followed it up during the Rivera years with Cam and Luke leading the team. We would run the ball down your throat on offense and let it rip down field when you were reeling. On defense we would just beat the crap out of you for four quarters and try to intimidate you. Yet, we weren't the bad guys, we weren't yellow flag factories or cheap shot artists. We beat you down fair and square and even when we lost, you knew you'd been through a scrape. It was like being clobbered over the head again and again by a book on Southern hospitality. We didn't try to get all cutesy and clever and we sure as fug never played timid like we do now. Tepper bought the franchise and tried to remake us into Pittsburgh south and instead just neutered the cats. After Rhule and Reich, we've become the Carolina Pansies.

Well said!

I really hate for anyone to lose their job, but its pretty obvious that some mistakes have been made here. Is there anything to be gained by jettisoning the coaching staff now? That early start on the search means nothing if the only candidates out there are also coaches who've been cut loose. I believe that was a big part of the mistake we made last year... It's not like any of the best OCs or DCs out there can even begin interviewing here. And I've seen nothing from this group of coaches on either side of the ball to see anything worthy of giving someone an interim coach gig as a trial run. Our biggest mistake was probably in letting Wilks go. The man had something to prove and we would have benefitted greatly from that.

Until they triple cover him. Then we're screwed.

They should make them all hang out on the sidelines and take notes. If we've got to watch this crap, they ought to be made to as well!

Well, this won't help. Our games aren't just tragic losses anymore. They are boring and as stale as a Frank Reich offense. Hell make him run it, if we have to watch it he ought to have to as well. Trade Reich, PeeWee and Sanders to Chicago for one of our third round picks. Small price to pay and a deal that even Fitt could make happen.

We run an offense that is best situated for a mid-level QB of 1993. Yanno, like Frank used to be in.

I think the Bill Belichick coaching tree has begun withering in the field for a few years now. There's a common denominator in their big wins, but they all seem to share in the ruin that followed both in Boston and elsewhere. They stepped into a magic puddle and we've been praising them for almost two decades for what may have been just a set of lucky circumstances. And yes, maybe he did develop Brisset, Cassel and Garropolo but really, think of those guys. You know as well as I do that if any of those guys is your starting QB, you're in for a lackluster season at best. Maybe we should look elsewhere... and not chase someone else's past.

Harbaugh wasn't run out of the NFL because things were going so well for him... unlike how he's being run out of the NCAA. There's some bad karma happening there.

That's three mules fighting over the same rotten turnip. Sure, it's a competition, but it sure doesn't matter who wins.

Marc Davis fired McDaniels because he had come to the obvious conclusion that the Raiders had quit being the Raiders. And win or lose, being the Raiders meant something. The Panthers haven't been the Panthers since Tepper took over. The owner can't fire themselves, I guess, but maybe he needs to have the moment of epiphany that Bowl-Cut Billionaire had and realize that teams have an identity and they are at their best when they live up to that. The Panthers are a linebacker driven team that leans heavy on ball control in the offense. We're a beat you down franchise that depends on a steady, punishing run game and long downfield strikes, or hard after the catch efforts. We're not a bubble screen team. We're not a WCO pansy-picking, eight yards and out of bounds kind of people. We don't just take what they give us and bend don't break. We're supposed to Keep Pounding. Not play nice.

Remember how Thielen would provide veteran leadership in the WR room and elevate those around him? Dude has been way too busy carrying the room to do any coaching.

Hell, Chicago traded away the number one pick to us and STILL fielded a more complete rookie QB than we did... and that guy didn't even cost them a draft pick. Yeah, he's not a finished product yet by any means, but Chicago may have someone there who has the mojo.

I am a Christian, that I will not deny. However, my hatred of organized gambling doesn't come from that at all (not sure if it is even mentioned in the Bible, maybe in Proverbs, maybe not)... It comes from the fact that gambling prays on the unsophisticated, the uneducated and the desperate and really doesn't care the harm it does. Those big shiny casinos aren't built on the backs of the winners, but on the backs of the suckers, rubes and misfortunate. Wanna bet $100 bucks with your buddy on the outcome of a game, or whether you'll be closest to the pin? Sure, go ahead, I've been there and done that. Want to sit down with some friends and buy $200 worth of chips and spend an evening playing poker? Heck, I made a fair amount of my college spending money that way. No biggie. Put a corporation with actuaries running the odds, setting the vigorish, advertising like mad and injecting all sorts of money into the league and its coverage and you end up in a situation rife with potential manipulation and predation. And let's not even touch on the lives ruined by people who get stuck chasing a win.

A dislike of gambling doesn't have to do with religion. Gambling is a parasite. But thanks for the blessings.

Don't let that website's sponsorship by BetFred Sportsbook possibly point to a clouded assesment on their part. I mean, hey, four out of five doctors who smoke recommend the cool flavor of Camel cigarettes, right?

That's bullshit and you know it. Go rattle your jewelry somewhere.

When Bryce gets swarmed for a sack, at least you can't hear him scream like a little girl as he tries to run away. Pickles was terrified out there. PeeWee just glumly accepts it.

fug gambling and how it has taken over football and the broadcasts we watch. It's a parasite on society and it will eventually cause a huge scandal for the game.

He seems like a really good young man. And he has won before. Just he's not showing any fire here and we seem to want him to play like Drew Brees when we should be looking at a young Russell Wilson for a model of how he works best. For some weird reason, short Drew could see through his linemen and work from within the pocket. Wilson, on the other hand, did his best work when he was flushed out and had to improvise. You've seen the same games I have out of Bryce this year... having him stand back in the shotgun and then just hold his ground scanning the field hasn't worked and will probably get him killed eventually. When he has moved and been able to change the field of play and the parameters of what the defense has to do, his processing speed comes into play and he can outmatch the individuals on the defense. A good coach could both encourage that and gameplan for it. Maybe they could make something happen. Or a fiery QB could just push to will it into existence. We've got an uninventive coaching cadre and a far to even keeled QB who is just about passive out there on the field. And something I noticed last night... If this QB was able to break down the offensive line assignments and theory for training camp, he sure as hell should be over at the O-line bench after each failed series getting those guys together and on the right page, either by explaining where things went wrong or lighting a fire under their doughy asses. Lead, PeeWee, Lead! And lastly, give Miles Sanders an apple and a bus ticket home.

How about we say no to hiring another old Panthers QB who wasn't very good to be our head coach. So that leaves Jake and Cam in the positive side, but neither one is coaching material. Look, I want to be able to say, have patience with the current coaching regime. I really, really want to. I just can't. It doesn't matter what's happening in the locker room. It doesn't matter how many all-pros you have. It doesn't even matter how you do on draft day. All that matters is what is happening on the field. And what we are seeing there just is wrong. It's so wrong, there are so many deficiencies, that is near impossible to point to individual problems that can be solved. Every problem leads to another and was, in turn, caused by yet something else. It's not "We need better receivers." It's "Our receivers suck because of they don't run routes properly" and they don't run the routes properly because they are still young and have little coaching and that's because we traded away our best receiver to the team that beat us last night. And that's just the tip of that particular ice berg. And it's the frikkin' Arctic Sea of icebergs out there when it comes to reviewing this team's problems. We are literally awash in disastrous problems. Outside of special teams, there's really nothing good to say about any position group or play calling. Nada, zilch. I keep looking for something, anything that could provide some shred of hope for this team, but I just can't find it. This is just a bad team, through and through. I'm not sure it can be fixed, and certainly not by the current GM and Head Coach or their respective staffs. This team needs an enema to flush all this crap out.