kungfoodude

I don't 100% disagree with this but you are also kicking the can towards years in which we will be needing to have room for our younger/core guys to get extended. If the cap makes a huge leap due to the new TV deals, perhaps I can understand the move. I, like so many here, just don't have a lot of faith historically in such moves because they were so often not to our benefit. Perhaps the real issue is just "Battered Fan Syndrome."

I think you play the board but it would be hard to pass on Lance at 8 if he is available. That is gonna depend on what our scouting department comes up with. It could be we wouldn't touch Lance or Jones or Mond in the first round at all. I am not gonna be upset about getting a top end CB or OT at 8.

The rumor mill about him being on the outs here. I agree taking that dead cap hit wouldn't be wise but probably rolling into 2021 with a lame duck QB isn't either. If we can't trade him then most of the scenarios we are looking at are probably touchy or just bad. It's going to be interesting to see what transpires.

I would say Teddy actually has a better arm than Jones. I don't think Jones is plagued by Teddy's gross risk aversion.

I don't know if some of the rumblings are true. I guess I am just not sure how you trot him back out there after this offseason. If we sign someone else or draft someone else, we would have the most expensive backup QB in the NFL and by a significant margin(possibly the most expensive backup in NFL history). It seems like trotting out Teddy again would generally be problematic. Does he have trade value? To be determined.

What do we do with Teddy if we go JAG free agent signing, though? Cut him?

I always just post the career leaders from the NCAA in yardage, TD's, completion percentage, etc. If people haven't figured this out by now, there just isn't much to even say to them. College is an incredibly skewed and very tilted playing field that can create some extremely skewed results. Video game stats are meaningless without NFL traits. That is obvious with every single position.

Definitely disagree. Mechanical issues are very common in prospects, as are guys that come from gimmicky or one read college offenses. That is actually something the NFL has actually had to adjust to to make that transition easier. Guys that don't fix mechanical things in the NFL just lack work ethic. That said, there are guys like Mahomes that can make these nutty throws without being perfect. Kyle Wilson is an example of that.

Would have been nice to get a fifth and sixth. Either way, 100% agree. The depth on our roster overall is probably the worst in the NFL. Those kind of picks are necessary to resolve that.

The Brady comparison is always a terrible comparison. Name another Brady like result with relatively average/above average skill set? Outliers don't define smart moves. The league has made a move towards guys that are more mobile and have elite skills because it makes your offense so much harder to defend. Jones had very little in the way of elite skill sets. If he DOES have elite processing, that helps a lot. However, he needs things to go right around him to help him be successful(and yes this could be said of many QB's). Not having an elite arm or being an elite athlete is always going to make you have to work harder to be successful. Where Lawrence, Fields, Lance or Wilson might be able to throw lasers into windows, Jones isn't going to be able to do that. Where the play breaks down and you need an off platform throw, Wilson can make that. Lance and Fields can punish you scrambling. The is the problem with the low ceiling guys, they have to really work hard to achieve an edge. Jones has to be willing to do that. Guys like Brady or Brees don't come around often. Hell, if Bledsoe doesn't get injured, there may be no Tom Brady story. If San Diego doesn't draft Rivers, there may be no Drew Brees story.

I am way off on what we should pay him? Absolutely not. He may get that, I just hope we aren't the dumb franchise that does it. He has one more NFL stop where people see "potential." After that he will just be what he has been, not an NFL caliber starting QB. Basically the same thing Teddy was for us in a different form. People like to quote the Tannehill scenario but that is a big outlier. There are way more guys that got a big contract to be the guy and ended up being backup/journeyman QB's(Foles, Flacco, Bradford, Glennon, Teddy, Cassell, etc). There are even more guys that were ruined after they were initially a bust with the team that drafted them in the top 10. Those are two big examples of why you don't want to gamble big on a reclamation project. They very, very, very rarely pan out. Especially with a guy like Trubisky who, although clearly talented, has never shown any ability to be consistent nor really improve. I'd love to have him as an upgrade over Walker or Grier as our backup but I am not going to pay Taysom Hill money for a backup.

In fairness, we could end up being wrong on our takes of this....but this just seems so disturbingly familiar.

Pretty sure Moton has been playing at Moton his entire life.

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Scott, Little and Daley at LT made me puke in my mouth a little. Okay, a lot.

I would not want to pay him $8.3 mil. At that rate, let him go elsewhere. I was thinking more in the $4-5 mil range.

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Wow.....just....wow.

I think it is entirely possible Trubisky would be the 6th or 7th best QB in this draft class. You have to remember that not only was he vastly over drafted by Chicago but at the time that was considered a very, very, very weak QB draft class. Now, in hindsight, it had two of the biggest stars in the NFL at QB but I don't remember many getting excited about Mahomes as a prospect and Watson wasn't considered a very high caliber QB prospect either.

Minshew is just flat out a better player.

His drafting was not consistent and sometimes very bad. Reference the rest of his drafts aside from 2017. He only looks good because of the large swath of time that Hurney was crushing the first round and basically little else. Gettleman's dumpster diving early on netted some great results. I always felt like he got a little overconfident with that. Then he made aeguably the worst free agency signing in franchise history in Matt Kalil. To me, after the suspect drafts, that was the final straw in his coffin.

Jones isn't Teddy. Teddy is actually more NFL skilled than Jones is(stronger arm, far better athlete). Teddy just can't get out of his own way. Dalton is a better comparison and I just can't see the justification for taking Andy Dalton at 8. I'd rather gamble bigger on an upper half of the NFL QB. That is no slight to Dalton's NFL career, but we are looking for a franchise QB and Dalton really wasn't. Ironically, the Bengals ended up drafting a guy that is pretty similar to Andy Dalton.

I don't think anyone knows yet. Undoubtedly Curtis will test the market but we don't know how hot of a commodity he will be.