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It's a bad situation. Whatever the Teppers were looking for was the foundation of how it went bad. Bryce at #1, Fritterer (was always bad IMO) vision of the roster, letting Frank stay the playcaller and whatever else they were trying to do sank this ship at conception. We just don't know the real details. It's also the same kind of out of control mess as when Rhule was here so they are obviously running that kind of show. The circus thing fits and the Teppers are absolutely the ringleaders and setting the pace.

They lose either way. Play Bryce and keep proving the obvious or play Dalton win a game or 2 which just makes option one look that much worse. There are much larger decisions within the organization that need to happen first for that one to possibly carry anything good attached to it so just keep playing Bryce so there can be no doubt about what he is and keep the Dalton option open for the near future.

None of this looks like it has anything to do with luck. It's a competence issue and it starts with ownership. They built this all willingly.

I agree and good for him. The next best move for the Panthers is a crew that will show they can be competent next year and they are going to have to work with a lot of prove it guys given the situation. There isn't a fast fix for this team and even if we still had the #1 coming up there is no sign yet they wouldn't fug it up again.

Just ask for a trade and speed this all up. This team is going no where and do you really want to get paid to wallow in the mud with the rest of this mess for years when you could be contending and still getting paid? It's OK. Be a professional and put your career over this dead end. I do wonder what his stats would look like as an edge rusher on a loaded D when he isn't close to the best player.

He literally ran away and stopped taking interviews. That is way more than balking at the job. They traded up to #1 so he could have had the pick of the litter at QB...if picking was ever on the table. Whatever it was, it was way more than just a bad roster.

I'm not at all convinced that Bryce would look much better in SF. Lance didn't and he had a ton more potential than Bryce ever will. Bryce's issues are he isn't an NFL talent. Too little physically and too little physical talent. It all shows on game day.

I wish. I need to see what way they will go now. Not the way I want them to go but an actual move that signifies a direction change. Worst case, they try and fix the situation. Best case, Fritterer is fired and a consultant is brought in. The stuff in the middle doesn't look too good considering the recent past. No one in house is looking competent.

Great interim coach and not a great long term answer. Running off Ben Johnson and stiff arming Steichen rank way higher on my list of better options. Frank was never a good option. Tepper couldn't see it and some fans couldn't either. Whatever he agreed to that Ben balked at is what I want to know. Whatever it was, it was real bad.

This sure seems like it's worse than the Sean Gilbert trade. That one scared JR permanently so maybe this one teaches Tepper something...if it's possible for him to finally learn aanything positive about running an NFL team. It's going down in history as the worst trade for the team. It might also be the worst year ever also so I guess Tepper finally got his big move and big outcome he has been looking for since 2020.

Or it could just be the all star coaching we got going on. IDK, until I see them make a move I don't know what the hell those people are really thinking. The possibilities are fun but the reality hasn't kept up with that.

Anytime. His ticket is punched. If they let him make another trade then they deserve what they will get.

It's all pointless now. And no way does playing Dalton keep Bryce off the field all year. Playing Bryce into the locker room falling apart wouldn't help him either.

No one on the front office should survive this season.

I see no real core peices, some maybes but nothing guaranteed. Fire FO people and hire a consultant. Anything less will just be more of the same.

The fantasy they will build a 49ers type situation around him given the situation is not one I can share, he may find that on his next landing spot as happens in these circumstances. He is going to have to beat someone out of that job next year and I haven't seen anything that leads me to belive he can. Those people haven't figured out anything good and if new people come in then nothing is guaranteed as far as futures.

Or they could just call it what it is and just play Dalton.

Dalton might win a game.

I still think they will more likely double down vs doing anything rational like firing Fritterer. If Bryce really is Tepper's guy then expect a big dumb trade or something next. I just can't expect any kind of decent direction when there hasn't been any for way too long and I just don't believe that Tepper isn't a huge part of the problem. I just can't expect him to start acting like a reasonable owner when I think he is in on the big stink.

Sounds like you found the new Panther's PR department.

I would say Scott anytime and Frank when he doesn't give up playcalling again. Then I think about whatever Tepper did throughout the process and wonder if he is again tied to people who did too much of what he wanted so now he has to let them fail for way to long again.

Bryce Young lol

Again...

Run the ball out of non-shotgun lol. It's all so stupid but at least it's funny once you accept the reality

We will know all we need to know by the end of the year. There is stuff Bryce needs to work on but the product on the field doesn't warent skipping a true QB compitition. It's obvious he isn't close to being able to outperform Dalton.