Gettlemen going after "Max Value"...

[firstdayfan]

I was reading an article today by Jonathan Jones and I really liked this quote from Gettlemen:

 

 

 

“I say it over and over again: we don’t draft for need, we draft for value. If you draft for need instead of value you’re going to get burned.”

 

This is the first time I've heard him say it like this which I think is really interesting because I feel like he's really saying that if you need a wide receiver than a good one could have more value than say a defensive tackle or defensive end.  

 

I feel like the same thing happened with KK last year because it may be a little hard to believe that he was literally at the top of their draft board but when you factor in the need+their rating (which I'm sure was near the top) then that equals the maximum value.

 

So I really feel like we got some insight into what is in Gettlemen's head in the draft, he loves to get those max value guys and the beginning and then get just solid value guys later.  For example, last year we saw value based picks late like Klein and Barner because that late in the draft you just want to get some guys that can contribute.  Today I think we'll see some more holes filled in the 2nd and 3rd round...probably CB and OL, then from the 4th-7th we'll see just solid value picks no matter what position they play, which I love.

 

The only thing I still can't quite figure out is how Kugbilla factors into all this, maybe the 4th round is for "swing for the fences" guys.

[Captain Morgan]

think I understand him now and I like the philosophy.  Big difference between BPA and best value.

Looks like we will fill some holes.

[Montsta]

Some people take the literal meaning of BPA and run with it and make themselves look like idiots trying to discredit an imaginary draft method. Gettleman realizes how your team changes every year in the NFL so drafting solely off of need every year would be pretty fuging stupid.

Several of us have tried to explain a BPA approach to people who take it at literal face value to argue against it, and it's nauseating.

I'm glad this 'best value' term has surfaced because it's gotten hard to explain things to some of these kids without paste and Legos.

[Chaos]

A GM knows that Hurney's mess couldn't be cleared up in one offseason.  You have to look at this over the course of several years, which means yes, we needed WR last year, but the value was this year, so we double dipped on the D line.  Looking at this from the 30,000 feet viewpoint, this is the strategy that puts all the right pieces in place but patiently over time.  Hard to deal with as a fan, but makes the most sense. 

 

The defense has been crafted and now it's time to develop the offense.  Gotta love where this train is headed!

[Ricky Spanish]

What round is Max Value projected to go?

[UpstatePanther]

I was reading an article today by Jonathan Jones and I really liked this quote from Gettlemen:

 

 

This is the first time I've heard him say it like this which I think is really interesting because I feel like he's really saying that if you need a wide receiver than a good one could have more value than say a defensive tackle or defensive end.  

 

I feel like the same thing happened with KK last year because it may be a little hard to believe that he was literally at the top of their draft board but when you factor in the need+their rating (which I'm sure was near the top) then that equals the maximum value.

 

So I really feel like we got some insight into what is in Gettlemen's head in the draft, he loves to get those max value guys and the beginning and then get just solid value guys later.  For example, last year we saw value based picks late like Klein and Barner because that late in the draft you just want to get some guys that can contribute.  Today I think we'll see some more holes filled in the 2nd and 3rd round...probably CB and OL, then from the 4th-7th we'll see just solid value picks no matter what position they play, which I love.

 

The only thing I still can't quite figure out is how Kugbilla factors into all this, maybe the 4th round is for "swing for the fences" guys.

 

this is why all the talk of "BPA" aggravated me for so long. dont simply meet needs, and dont simply take the highest rated player available. take the Best Value Available... the BVA (as opposed to BPA)

[Peppers90 NC]

BPA is only worth a damn if you can spot good value/are good at evaluating talent.  Jax is probably the only team that had Bortles as their third best player or better.

[TheRumGone]

i still can't believe Cam finally has a big WR to play with.

 

 

[jdpanther5]

I've said before it seems we subscribe less to BPA and more to MIPA (most impactful player available).

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[cultclassiccat]

i still can't believe Cam finally has a big WR to play with.

i was in total shock honestly, not sure of it being in glee or disgust.  

 

woke up today and its clearly glee, i was just nervous i think.  this guy is what we have really all been wanting since we drafted Cam and i am pumped. 

 

to the op..  Im starting to think gettleman is just a master troll.  he's been in this game too long to let media and certain outlets comb him over to get nuggets of info. all i know is our front office is committed to improving our team through the draft one "BPA" at a time, what that means we prob will never understand because thats what gman wants and i like it.

[Jimbo]

I like the Benjamin pick, but I consider it a slight reach.  He likely won't be a starter day 1,  and he likely won't be a perennial Pro Bowl player.  He's somebody I would have taken somewhere in the late 30's/early 40's. 

 

I'm glad we have him, but I don't consider it a value selection at all.