2014 Panthers vs. 2013 Panthers

[TheRumGone]

cam single handedly won us like 4 games last year.

 

thats playoffs or missing the playoffs. 12-4 to 8-8

 

cam does have to carry the load, we go as far as Cam takes us. it's just we haven't really surrounded him with much. it's like asking somebody to shoot a free throw with one arm. it's doable but much harder.

 

we are in the beginning stages of getting Cam help. we've started off strong but there is still a ways to go. Look at all these young QB's like Luck and RG3.

[RoaringRiot]

Right now our receivers are unproven. As a unit we don't know what we have at all. At best we take Crotchery's outlier year (out of 10) and Avant's best year (out of 8), and then add in an unproven Benjamin to somehow beat the proven receivers we lost. Now I know you guys probably will argue our receivers were bad last year, I disagree. Mike Shula's system was, to say the least, not explosive. Smith went from '11 1300 yards, '12 1100, to Mike Shula 800 (hurt two games though). Okay we went 12-4 yadda, yadda, nothing could have posisbily been wrong with a 12-4 teams coaching. Then take into consideration how fast our receivers we let go were signed (quickly), and by what teams (winners).

Our secondary is much worse. We lost our best cornerback, Captain, and yes he was great nickel CB, if you don't believe me look up some of Rivera's comments on Captain. We lost our best safety, Mike Mitchell, who got a very nice contract out of the FA gate. And then we lose Mikell (great tackler, added to our sack total). Just with Captain, Mitchell, and Mikell we lose quite a bit of our turnover and sack potential (look up their totals if you would like).

Our offensive line should be unquestionably worse. I know we started the year with a similar line, supposedly, but everyone knew that was our weakness last year. Now we lose our franchise LT, and arguably our best guard, and somehow that's not worse? We have unproven "talent" that will fill in and do great I suppose.

Lastly, an easy one, kick and punt return. Before last year we had a bad KR/PR for the last what, four years? Joe Adams fumbling was the most exciting return plays we had in fact. We now have maybe Barner (fumbles version two), or Pilares (back to being crap).

Oh and before you jump on the whole Gettleman is god he broke in good guys last year and will do it again. That poo doesn't just happen again, and the guys he brought in were somewhat proven, even Ginn.

The Dline will be better.

The LBs will be better.

The QB will be better.

Stew should be healthy at the beginning of the season which makes the RB unit stronger.

The WR group can't be much worse than 29th if at all.

Really you're saying losing Captain is going to have that much of an impact in the secondary? Come on....

OL is obvious a question.

And I too wonder about the return game.

That doesn't feel like we are so much worse than last year to me.

[Heel]

The Dline will be better.

The LBs will be better.

The QB will be better.

Stew should be healthy at the beginning of the season which makes the RB unit stronger.

The WR group can't be much worse than 29th if at all.

Really you're saying losing Captain is going to have that much of an impact in the secondary? Come on....

OL is obvious a question.

And I too wonder about the return game.

That doesn't feel like we are so much worse than last year to me.

 

Our defensive line will be better? I don't think you understand how defensive lineman develop, they don't often have any impact in the first year. I would be surprised if he took the third spot.

 

Our linebackers will be the same, or Kelin will be better or Blackburn will be worse. I don't understand how you can confidently list that.

 

Our QB I think is progressing great, but I don't know how he will do with our current offensive roster. For all we know he gets hurt, or starts feeling ghosts. 

 

The WR group can, and I think right now is, the 32nd rated group. Our offense could be the worse, this is actually possible whether you realize it or not, someone has to be the worst.

 

And you ignore Captains strengths, along with the safeties I listed, I kind of expected that.

[RoaringRiot]

Our defensive line will be better? I don't think you understand how defensive lineman develop, they don't often have any impact in the first year. I would be surprised if he took the third spot.

Our linebackers will be the same, or Kelin will be better or Blackburn will be worse. I don't understand how you can confidently list that.

Our QB I think is progressing great, but I don't know how he will do with our current offensive roster. For all we know he gets hurt, or starts feeling ghosts.

The WR group can, and I think right now is, the 32nd rated group. Our offense could be the worse, this is actually possible whether you realize it or not, someone has to be the worst.

And you ignore Captains strengths, along with the safeties I listed, I kind of expected that.

Yes our

[Heel]

Yes our

 

No their

[RoaringRiot]

Our defensive line will be better? I don't think you understand how defensive lineman develop, they don't often have any impact in the first year. I would be surprised if he took the third spot.

Our linebackers will be the same, or Kelin will be better or Blackburn will be worse. I don't understand how you can confidently list that.

Our QB I think is progressing great, but I don't know how he will do with our current offensive roster. For all we know he gets hurt, or starts feeling ghosts.

The WR group can, and I think right now is, the 32nd rated group. Our offense could be the worse, this is actually possible whether you realize it or not, someone has to be the worst.

And you ignore Captains strengths, along with the safeties I listed, I kind

of expected that.

The DLine and LBs will be better simply because they have more experience in the league and playing together. Not to mention the addition of Ealy.

You can call the WR the worst if you want. We won't know until we see them play. Regardless...they were 29th last year so even if they were 32nd it's not like it's THAT much worse than last year. Let's be serious...

Mitchell and Captain are both products of our DLine. That's not even worth the discussion.

[Semaj]

Back to back winning seasons and another playoff birth coming

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[Khaki Lackey]

My biggest question is the OL. It was a big question last year too, but at least you knew you had two really good guys in Gross and Kalil. Now Gross is gone.

Has a team ever lost a perennial All Pro and seemingly not gave one single fug about trying to replace him? Do we really think a battle between a.former UFA who sucks at RT and a former UFA DT convert is really the way to replace a stallwart LT?

oh wee mayne...

Welcome to being decent and picking 28th. Which OL would you have gotten? Let's put it on the record.

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[Cpt slay a ho]

9-7 or 10-6 i'm hoping, but i could very well be 6-10

 

a lot of focus on the future instead of making moves to win this year

[mcdougal]

It doesn't matter how much you invest into your DLine, this is a QB league. How many wins do you think we would have had last season with Clausen as QB?

Some of you guys became fans of the panthers when Cam came over. And that's fine. Cam is a superstar. But there is a disconnect between how great our QB and what a shitty QB does to your team.

 

I warned you guys LAST year that this offense was not going to carry us to the playoffs and our getting to the post-season will be based on if the Panthers can get a top 5 defense.

 

Really? It doesn't matter how much you invest in your DLine? If we didn't invest in our DLine then we could get other pieces for the other aspects of our team.

 

We better hope that DLine stays healthy and plays well. Because if you think this offense is putting up even 20 points a game you are going to be disappointed.

 

The Panthers are now a defensive team that is LED by our front 7. We go as far as they take us.

[LinvilleGorge]

Welcome to being decent and picking 28th. Which OL would you have gotten? Let's put it on the record.

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[mcdougal]

How many rings does Brady have? How many season where the patriots went to the Super Bowl did they have a top 3 defense?

It's easy to cherry pick your cases. The fact of the matter is, QBs win games.

If you don't think so, you're saying that we could've replaced Cam with Clausen and won the same amount of games last season?

 

Nobody is saying that you can replace Cam with anybody and win the same amount of games. What I am saying is that the way that our team is constructed, Cam Newton and the passing game should be relied upon the least to win games.

 

We have to rely and get our MOST production from our front 7 and defense...That is where MOST of our resources have been spent.

 

All we need Cam and the offense to do is take care of the ball, not put the defense in too many bad spots, and generally get out of its way; We will not get back to the playoffs depending on our offense--especially our passing game. We will get back to the playoffs by having a top 5 defense and holding our opponents to under 14, and sometimes even under 10 points.

[BigSyke]

luck got so many weapons compared to cam its a shame

 

wayne

hilton

nicks

moncrief

fleener

dwayne

rodgers

[Carl Spackler]

Regardless...they were 29th last year so even if they were 32nd it's not like it's THAT much worse than last year. Let's be serious...

 

If that's true though, it just proves there are a lot of Blind Gettleman Jock Sniffers on here that would forgive that so easily.