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PFT questions Brady's place among the top quarterbacks


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...which amuses me :lol:

 

As framed, the question is whether Brady continues to be one of the best five quarterbacks in the NFL.

It depends in large part on the other quarterbacks in the discussion.  In no particular order, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, and Aaron Rodgers are regarded by many as the best three quarterbacks currently in the league.  Veterans with viable claims of varying degrees include, in no particular order, Philip Rivers, Joe Flacco, Ben Roethslisberger, Jay Cutler, Tony Romo, Matthew Stafford, and Matt Ryan.  (Two years after his second Super Bowl win, the jury suddenly is out on Eli Manning.)  Young players deemed to be approaching the league’s elite are Andrew Luck, Cam Newton, Colin Kaepernick, Russell Wilson, Nick Foles, and maybe Robert Griffin III.

So where is Brady?  The question of whether he’s currently one of the best five overlooks the more important question of whether he’s the same guy who won three Super Bowls in the first five years of his NFL career.  While the chicken-and-egg notion that he lacks the same weapons as other star quarterbacks gives Brady a pass for some, Brady won those Super Bowls without Randy Moss and Wes Welker.

Stats and accomplishments (or lack thereof) aside, the truth remains that Welker’s notorious “drop” in Super Bowl XLVI came on a pass that wasn’t delivered accurately.  Throw it between the “8″ and the “3″ and Brady has a claim nearly on par with Joe Montana for the title of best ever.  The ball wasn’t as accurate as, say, a pass from Montana to Jerry Rice would have been.

Then there’s the reality that, in the 2013 AFC title game, the Broncos opted to take away LeGarrette Blount and to force Brady to beat them through the air.  If Brady truly is a top-five quarterback, would anyone opt to neutralize a journeyman tailback in a single-elimination and to dare the top-five quarterback to deliver timely, accurate passes in a single-elimination setting?

Brady didn’t, on multiple occasions.  Which contributes to the idea that he isn’t as good as he used to be.

 

PFT: Is Tom Brady still a top five quarterback?

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There is a lot of hate for Brady on this board, but this article is sh*t.

 

Peyton Manning is still firmly placed in the top 3 after his recent Super Bowl performance, but Brady is washed up?

 

Bad comparison. Peyton still has perfect accuracy and decision making. Brady is obviously still an elite QB, but did you watch that playoff game against Denver? Missed Edelman wide the fug open deep atleast 5 times. Brady isn't washed up yet, but he is absolutely losing his touch. Peyton isn't.

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Bad comparison. Peyton still has perfect accuracy and decision making. Brady is obviously still an elite QB, but did you watch that playoff game against Denver? Missed Edelman wide the fug open deep atleast 5 times. Brady isn't washed up yet, but he is absolutely losing his touch. Peyton isn't.

 

Yeah, in the regular season.

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I can't stand the guy... but he's probably still in the top 5 pretty easily, just on experience alone.

 

You can make a damned strong argument that he's the best ever as well.  

 

 

He's also happens to be the largest douche-turd east of a New Orleans gutter.

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Yeah, in the regular season.

Oh please, have you ever even watched a Peyton Manning playoff game or do you just blindly follow the media? Peyton's teams have never had great defenses, he didn't lose the team did. Peyton has a higher career postseason QBR than Brady yet people still say he chokes in the playoffs, which is just a lie. As for the Super Bowl, all of Peyton's receivers were outmatched by Seattle's physical secondary and they couldn't get separation. Not to mention that Peyton had like no time whatsoever.

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Oh please, have you ever even watched a Peyton Manning playoff game or do you just blindly follow the media? Peyton's teams have never had great defenses, he didn't lose the team did. Peyton has a higher career postseason QBR than Brady yet people still say he chokes in the playoffs, which is just a lie. As for the Super Bowl, all of Peyton's receivers were outmatched by Seattle's physical secondary and they couldn't get separation. Not to mention that Peyton had like no time whatsoever.

 

His receivers were outmatched? Eh, he had one of the top WR cores in the league.

 

I disagree about him having no time, even when he had time he was off target, and throwing ducks. He did not look good.

 

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Lol sports media....

 

To me Brady is the best in the league. I would pick him over Manning. The guy seems to do above and beyond in pressure situations.. comebacks.. just look at last MNF game with us. You give any other QB 20 seconds left to score and you think ah.. game is over. 

Obviously he is aging  and someone will take his place.. but for now and the past decade.. I think its easy to see why he is one of the best.

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Brady is still damn good.  IMO, Belichick has gotten too cocky in his ability to just plug in odds and ends and still get production.  NE's WR corps has been as bad as ours was last year for a few years now.

 

NE should probably go all in and try to swing a trade for Andre Johnson.  It was rumored the Texans were interested in Mallett.

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He's not my favorite player, but he is absolutely one of the top 3 in the game at the moment.

 

Rodgers

Manning 1

Brady

 

Brees

Rivers

 

That's how I am breaking down the top 5 right now, and that can change in a moments notice.

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