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Dave Newton-Outburst aside...Norman having a great camp


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CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Josh Norman is one of the most physically gifted players on the Carolina Panthers roster.

He's got the size (6-foot, 195), speed, quickness and vision to be one of the top cornerbacks in the NFL.

Norman also is one of the most unpredictable players on the Carolina roster, which keeps him from being not just an elite cornerback, but a starter.

Norman

Just when you think he's getting it, he reverts back to old, bad habits in terms of technique. Or he loses his cool, as he did on Sunday night when he got into a jawing match with Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver Dwayne Bowe.

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Norman being this supreme physical talent is one of the biggest Panthers myths there is. Just about every single workout of his at the Combine was below average for an NFL CB. He was the top CB performer in broad jump for his class, but that was because the entire class was weak in that drill compared to the norm. He would've been tied for 9th in broad jump in this past CB class.

The numbers don't lie. Josh Norman is a below average athlete for an NFL CB.

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Getting inside Norman's head is the difficult part. While his confidence unquestionably is a positive, he didn't seem to grasp after Sunday's game what he had done that was so wrong.

"What do you want us to be out there? Little puppets?'' he said. "You mean, you want us to say nothing? C'mon, it's within the game. I don't think we were taking it too far to where either one of us was getting flagged.''

Davis disagreed, remembering three unsportsmanlike penalties in the playoff loss to San Francisco that were costly in Carolina's 23-10 loss.

His message to Norman was simple.

"Be smart,'' Davis said. "Understand what's going on, understand the situation that we're in and understand the way the refs are going to be judging the game right now. They have a zero tolerance right now for trash-talking. We just have to stay clear of that stuff.''

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Norman being this supreme physical talent is one of the biggest Panthers myths there is. Just about every single workout of his at the Combine was below average for an NFL CB. He was the top CB performer in broad jump for his class, but that was because the entire class was weak in that drill compared to the norm. He would've been tied for 9th in broad jump in this past CB class.

The numbers don't lie. Josh Norman is a below average athlete for an NFL CB.

based on what? 40? cone drill? seriously???? there is such a thing called game speed, when the lights come on type game play. he made a huge mistage last year in the buff game other than that please feel free to let me know what else

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Norman being this supreme physical talent is one of the biggest Panthers myths there is. 

 

I have to agree. Why D Newton would think he is so talented athletically is a mystery to me.

 

He can be okay sometimes, really bad occasionally, but what have we seen other than camp interceptions to hint that he is a potential star waiting to blossom? 

 

I don't get it.

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Norman being this supreme physical talent is one of the biggest Panthers myths there is. Just about every single workout of his at the Combine was below average for an NFL CB. He was the top CB performer in broad jump for his class, but that was because the entire class was weak in that drill compared to the norm. He would've been tied for 9th in broad jump in this past CB class.

The numbers don't lie. Josh Norman is a below average athlete for an NFL CB.

you seem to be under the impression that the NFL combine actually measures someone's athleticism

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Norman being this supreme physical talent is one of the biggest Panthers myths there is. Just about every single workout of his at the Combine was below average for an NFL CB. He was the top CB performer in broad jump for his class, but that was because the entire class was weak in that drill compared to the norm. He would've been tied for 9th in broad jump in this past CB class.

The numbers don't lie. Josh Norman is a below average athlete for an NFL CB.

 

...because combine results is always an indicator of how a person plays on the field.

 

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