Godfrey not at fault in Bucs' first touchdown.

[Rags]

no one said it was just that one play, but no, Godfrey is not a Very Good Player.

 

he's average in coverage, but he's a terrible, terrible tackler. He needs to be upgraded, 

 

You guys seem to miss the fact there was a reason he was on the bubble. 

[MadHatter]

no one said it was just that one play, but no, Godfrey is not a Very Good Player.

 

he's average in coverage, but he's a terrible, terrible tackler. He needs to be upgraded, 

 

You guys seem to miss the fact there was a reason he was on the bubble. 

 

The Huddle kept saying that he was on the bubble.....that was never said by the coaching staff.

 

He is nowhere near elite....but he is nowhere near as bad as most on here keep saying.

[Rags]

The Huddle kept saying that he was on the bubble.....that was never said by the coaching staff.

 

He is nowhere near elite....but he is nowhere near as bad as most on here keep saying.

 

Is he Haruki Nakamura or Sherrod Martin? Not even close. He's way above them. He's had a lot of good games. That Saints games from a few years back comes to mind. 

 

But that doesn't mean he's good. He's Just A Guy. He's a hideous tackler, and in coverage he amazes you one play and makes you scratch your head on another. There's a reason we brought in 3 salties this offseason. 

[teeray]

OK fine, but explain why we have to go through this song and dance so often with the same player? It seems every blown coverage has Godfrey somewhere in the picture. It may not all be his fault but we can all agree that he isn't good enough to make up for any type of on-field mistake.

Because most people , even football savvy people, don't know what the fug is going on and who is supposed to do what on a given play. And they are eager to slam Godfrey at any opportunity possible.

He is the safety, it only makes sense that he is often in the vicinity when busted coverages happen.

[DaCityKats]

sounds like the panthers where in cover 2, and the CB has to funnel the WR inside so the safety can get over top the vertical routes. 

 

yeah he was in Godfrey zone, but White didn't help him out at all. plus, some cover 2s ask their CBs to keep getting depth if no one is attacking their zone, to help the safety out, in case their is more then one vertical route for him to cover. makes the pass harder for the QB to fit it in-between 2 guys.

[carpanfan96]

sounds like the panthers where in cover 2, and the CB has to funnel the WR inside so the safety can get over top the vertical routes.

Bingo, td was completely on the corner on the play. Gotta get a hand on them redirect the route and give the safety enough time to get on top of the route. Can't let a wr go down the sideline like that playing c2. Safety has to check the middle of the field for the te inside seam route then move to the outside. If the cb doesn't jam the receiver and redirect the route of the outside route, the safety will most times look out of position.

Had the same problem a few years ago when everyone was calling for Godfrey to be cut and most of the mistakes were on the cb not funneling the wr right spots on the field. Not saying he didn't make mistakes, but there is a reason he was a pro bowl alt and got the contract he did.

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[Cover2Safety33]

Holy S#$#!!!!  You must be new. 

 

When the RJ Stanfords- Sherrod Martins - Josh Thomas - Josh Norman -Brandon Hogan's, And this case Melvin White don't hold up or miss assignments, Charles Godfrey looks bad. 

 

When the Chris Gambles, Ken Lucas, Richard Marshalls were playing he was a pro-bowl alternate and got the big contracts.   

 

Is he Ed Reed in his prime?  Hell to the no.  Has he lost a step or 3 from injury? Yes sir.   But he gets blamed for a lot of stuff that isn't his fault.  But I guess blaming the safety is the safe thing to do.

 

I'm not new per se. I've had my account for a while but only like to post when I have something that I deem worthwhile to say, albeit in the gameday threads I will post out of excitement.

 

Moving on, I completely agree with you! Safety is one of the hardest positions to play mentally in all of football. He is the last line of defense often in charge of cleaning up the mistakes made by others. If the fullback in the Bucs game had scored on the long run, it would be on Decoud for not being there to get him instead of on Kuechly for filling the wrong hole. 

 

Every mistake can and will be pinned on one of the safeties, no matter what someone else did.

[Snake]

This is the same song and dance we have had for many years. I know two things, Godfrey needs a good CB to look average and Capt needed a good Safety to look good. In years past when we added the two together it was a nightmare. White screwed up and cost us because Godfrey is not going to cover a mistake. The sad fact was that Godfrey made a bunch of plays off his athletics and now thats gone and upstairs was never his strong suit so we are left with not much of a Safety IMO.

[Jbo]

RR says they are now listing Godfrey as CB/NB/S... all of the above. Its absurd at how RR loves him so much.

[Mr. Scot]

I'm not a big fan of the "it's really everybody else but Godfrey" defense.

[Mojo]

No the play wasn't entirely Godfrey's fault but let's be real. Godfrey just isn't that good. 

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[L-TownCat]

Because most people , even football savvy people, don't know what the fug is going on and who is supposed to do what on a given play. And they are eager to slam Godfrey at any opportunity possible.

He is the safety, it only makes sense that he is often in the vicinity when busted coverages happen.

Again, fair point made by you. But if I may redirect. It seems to me that the safety position was created to keep from getting beat over the top. This may not be the case for this particular play but it just looks like Godfrey is unaware of the possibility that the play could go where it ends up going. His awareness is atrocious and if he's not put in exactly the right spot by the coaches he is utterly useless.

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[Cover2Safety33]

Again, fair point made by you. But if I may redirect. It seems to me that the safety position was created to keep from getting beat over the top. This may not be the case for this particular play but it just looks like Godfrey is unaware of the possibility that the play could go where it ends up going. His awareness is atrocious and if he's not put in exactly the right spot by the coaches he is utterly useless.

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Let me ask you: if Godfrey goes to defend the sideline and McCown hits the seam in the endzone, would you still be upset with Godfrey for not anticipating the pass going to the seam?

[L-TownCat]

Specific scenarios do not apply in my critique of Godfrey.

I'll be plain.

He does not pass the eye test.

This means when I watch him play football I want to shut my eyes. It's bad. Just bad.

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