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How Should We As Panthers Fans Respond To Domestic Violence?


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It's already well documented that the Observer thinks Hardy should be released and we as fans should turn our back on him. To me ostracizing Hardy is not the answer. Turning our back on our players is a negative message and the wrong message. Hardy hasn't even had his due process yet.

 

However the bigger issue to me right now is how the NFL has handled this Ray Rice situation. I think every NFL fan base should respond with a positive message. During the National Anthem I think it would be cool if every couple in every stadium held hands and raised them to the sky. Families could do it to. It tells the NFL how we feel about the people we love and it tells the rest of the country how we feel as well. It's a positive gesture that inspires people to be better partners without shunning those who are trying to improve themselves.

 

How do you feel we should respond?

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The truth? Many couples will hold hands and go home and beat on each other. We need to stop treating this like it's a disease like Cancer that we can just come together and fight.

There is a huge difference in a couple fighting and her man striking her and a woman getting beat by a drunken husband every night. If Chris Brown is still allowed on the radio, then Ray Rice should be allowed to serve his suspension and return. This is such an individual issue, we can't control what happens between two individuals in love.

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The truth? Many couples will hold hands and go home and beat on each other. We need to stop treating this like it's a disease like Cancer that we can just come together and fight.

 

uh, we can come together and fight it. much like other behavior that society collectively deems harmful and unacceptable, we can stigmatize it and define it as aberrant behavior that has zero place in civilized society.

 

actions are shaped by ideology, and ideology is formed by people collectively deciding upon it, so if dialogues produced by this event cause people to decide against it en masse, then people by definition have "come together and fought" against it and seen a shift on the rudder of social progression away from domestic violence.

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During the National Anthem I'd prefer to keep my right hand over my heart as the traditionally recognized symbolic gesture of patriotism to our country.  You could wear a ribbon or a screen printed t-shirt with a ghostbusters symbol over Ray Rice's face.  Something more pragmatic would be not to hit your significant other in grill when he/she/whatever pisses you off, drag he/she/whatever down a hallway, and then look at your watch.  I get what you're saying and I am against busting your lady up side the head but when I am drinking my beer and eating my hotdog at the game I don't want the constant reminder.  I get enough of that on CNN, FOXSports, FOXNews, MSNBC, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, ESPNW, ESPN Deportes, ESPN3, ESPN Classics.

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Kind of a silly question. Most of us don't hit women. Striking women is wrong under most circumstances. The only time a man should physically harm a woman is if he is in danger of serious harm from her. Otherwise, it's inexcusable in my opinion. Opinion.

 

Opinion.

 

Need I say it again.

 

Opinion.

 

Stop arguing over opinions.

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The truth? Many couples will hold hands and go home and beat on each other. We need to stop treating this like it's a disease like Cancer that we can just come together and fight.

There is a huge difference in a couple fighting and her man striking her and a woman getting beat by a drunken husband every night. If Chris Brown is still allowed on the radio, then Ray Rice should be allowed to serve his suspension and return. This is such an individual issue, we can't control what happens between two individuals in love.

Have you stopped beating your wife?
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I am not sure Greg's situation should be classed as domestic violence. Okay, let's talk like folks who have had some experience in life for a moment. Doing physical bodily harm, intentionally, to your significant other, whether wife, husband, girlfriend or boyfriend, I think, should constitute domestic violence. If the relationship is of the more freaky variety, which some of you may have experienced, where the main reason for being is/has been sex, drugs, or just a strange good time, where the thought of permanent union was never even considered, where is the "domestic" in that? That is the main question which bothers me. If you include this group of participants, then even a bad experience with a 'call Girl" should be termed "domestic violence if any kind of aggressive physical altercation happens. Now the fact that dealing with call girls or prostitutes is immoral by most religious standards, to me it seems we are heading down a slippery slope when we apply casual sexual partners under the umbrella of domestic violence. There should be some other category to place it under and it, for other good reasons, should be prosecuted for what it is. NOT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, which carries the stipulation that it must be prosecuted even without the victims desire to have it prosecuted.

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