Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

The players have lost confidence in Ron Rivera

Mage

By Mage,
in Carolina Panthers

Recommended Posts

Mage Grand Master

Mage

Posted
Posted

Over the next week and probably through the finish of the season, there will be plenty of questions about what went wrong with this team.  Whether it is Mike Shula, the talent level, Gettleman, Newton, injuries, etc.  But I think after tonight the number one issue is the players no longer respect or have confidence in Ron Rivera.

 

Ever since Rivera became head coach in 2011, one thing we were at least guaranteed was the players would play whistle to whistle as competitive as they could.  They would give 100% and no matter how poorly the gameplan was, no matter how bad the execution may have been, we gave it our all and at the very least this team wasn't blown off the ball.  For the fourth time this year, we have not just been beaten but we have been clobbered.  Cam Newton looks deflated.  I love Cam Newton more than any player in the NFL and in the past I had gotten used to him looking ticked off after making mistakes.  Nowadays, it just doesn't seem to really effect him (although yes, I know it does on the inside).  When they were showing Olsen trying to motivate Williams and Stewart on the sidelines, Stewart looked like he didn't want to be there.  This team just looks hopeless.

 

Does anyone else get this feeling from just looking at the guys?  I don't care about the talent level.  The Jaguars and Raiders are far less talented than us and a couple of other teams are too and yet they don't appear to get clobbered like we do on a now consistent basis.  I'm really beginning to think the locker room no longer cares for Ron Rivera.  His message has grown stale and the players no longer seem to be playing with any kind of fire or motivation.

 

Maybe I'm just spewing BS.  I don't know.  We are a terrible team and tonight's loss I expected (truthfully I expected it to be even worse than it was).  But in years past I always thought that no matter how bad we looked in the final 2 minutes, we would have at least been competitive throughout the game.  But nobody on this team, Kuechly, Davis, Cam included, none of them really look like they care to be out there.  For all of Rivera's faults, I truly think his biggest issue right now is the players no longer care for him and that is something that can't be fixed.  I can't envision a scenario where Ron Rivera coaches this team in 2015 unless we somehow luck into the playoffs.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites
SOJA Veteran

SOJA

Posted
Posted

I really don't think so I think it's these guys have lost confidence in themselves

 

 

Fox really did say it best regarding HC's "when you're winning you get too much praise and when you're losing you get too much blame"

 

 

I'm not saying Rivera isn't part of the problem, but I really really doubt the players aren't playing well right now because they don't like Rivera 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Beast_3000 Proficient

Beast_3000

Posted
Posted

We will see. I would like to leave the Canadian at left tackle. I think he will be better in week 15 than Bell would be if we continued to let Bell march out there. Let Bell play the right side for the rest of the season and let Chandler be the primary back up.

We aren't a playoff team this year, but I don't think we are far off from being the dominant team in this division. Let's be honest the salary cap woes and Hardy conviction took our team, but I remain confident we will bounce back next year and we will be better.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
CPcavedweller Veteran

CPcavedweller

Posted
Posted

I think they lost trust in our left and right tackles...oh and Benjamin being more concerned with getting back at Lewis than actually catching the damn ball. Maybe I'm the only one that saw that but Lewis got to him tonight and it showed after he dropped the sure TD and rolled, locked his legs with Lewis and dragged him down. Dude needs a serious attitude check because it's causing him to lose focus.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
CarolinaPanthers8789 Newbie

CarolinaPanthers8789

Posted
Posted

Nope

The players have lost confidence in themselves. Ron needs to get that same confidence they had in each other during week one when our fuging back up QB won us a game.

Personally, I don't see much talent on this team but I'm also a believer of confidence translating to play. When you got Roman Harper out there missing tackles on 3rd and four and then looking for his pride on the ground, it affects everyone.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Mage Grand Master

Mage

Posted
  • Author
Posted

I really don't think so I think it's these guys have lost confidence in themselves

 

 

Fox really did say it best regarding HC's "when you're winning you get too much praise and when you're losing you get too much blame"

 

 

I'm not saying Rivera isn't part of the problem, but I really really doubt the players aren't playing well right now because they don't like Rivera 

 

I don't think they dislike Rivera.  I just think his message has grown stale.  After awhile guys can no longer be motivated if what the coach is saying no longer appears to be working.  It is clear these guys aren't playing with as much fire as they have in the past.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
jcluther34 Newbie

jcluther34

Posted
Posted

I just did.

 

I've been blaming the past few losses on Shula and about half of the defense, but theres no avoiding it.

 

Rivera has no control over this team. He has no say in what his coordinators do, he's continuously failing to make the correct calls as far as taking 3 points or going for 6/7. Our new GM, while working with a cap filled to the brim with worthless contracts, failed to get our franchise QB a competent offensive line and receivers who can get open. He cut our only vertical threat. We gave a franchise tag to a player with a pending domestic violence case which the organization knew about and hoped would disappear.

 

Usually when a team loses games like this, its because there's zero key players and the rostered players let down their organization, however with us, the organization has let down its key players.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Rubi Experienced

Rubi

Posted
Posted

The style of offense this coaching staff wants to run requires a talented OLine. How can we be a ball control offense with the line we have? We want our identity to be a ground and pound ball control offense?....yet we dont acquire the pieces for it....

Smh...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • mrcompletely11
      Brooks RB, Placed on PUP, Out for 2025

      By mrcompletely11 · Posted

      Its completely and utterly bootlicking at this point.  If you cannot acknowledge that using 3 picks on a rb with a torn acl in the 2nd round isnt a bad pick then you simply havent a clue about football.  Sorry man it is what it is.  And its insanely laughable you are trying to strawman this argument using other players.  And what fuging facts are you bringing that is justifing morgan using 3 goddamn picks on him?  I cannot wait to hear that.
    • jfra78
      Panthers decision to pass on Walker

      By jfra78 · Posted

      Haterade
    • Bear Hands
      ESPN's Top 10 Impact Rookies(non-1st Round)

      By Bear Hands · Posted

      Scourton's interviews are telling to me that it's only a matter of time before he could really put it together.  His limitation tool-wise that I see is in his bend, but at the leaner size, it looks like it wasn't a problem at Purdue.   He has a good moveset and reads leverages very well (vet level well).  Plays both the speed/quickness (great change of direction) and has a power game with good hand usage.  Moves from what I've seen in my digs: I'm seeing cross-chop, fake crossers into bull, bull rush, spin (his preferred move of choice), hand shuck.  He's not unrefined by any means.   If he can do 2 things---I'm feeling confident from seeing his interviews that we have a real dude on our hands: 1) Diversifying his moveset/how it's deployed - Over-reliant on some, but again, he has a growing palette.  And is already great with his hands so things are in-place to coach up. 2) Developing a counter moveset and starting to play the chess game with an OT - He's very good at reading leverage, knowing when to change things up during a play.  But NFL coaching should start to teach him how to really create a plan based on an opponent.  What to throw at a guy first, how to confuse with fakes/counters, etc.  How to play against these tackles as a game progresses.   Overall, he has some things that give me serious optimism: Run Defense, speed moves, power moves, he's super young and has the size/length.  When you really spell it all out, I think we should get excited.  Temper expectations from a stat sheet standpoint, but he should be able to go in and make an impact.    
×
×
  • Create New...