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What is going on? Cam's QB rating keeps getting worse this season: 100.2, 98.5, 94.9, 84.8, 85.8, 72.6, 61.0, 45.2 (tonight)


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ironically the play calling has the same decrease...hmmm

agree 

 

playcalling has gotten worse, recievers have gotten worse... no check downs or dumps.... no olsen... no running back passes.... everything is 15 - 30 yard passes to KB

 

how in the world could you expect a QB to have a good rating with the play calls and reciever drops

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All comes down on Shula. As teams get film, his long-developing, vanilla offense is getting more and more exposed. Not to mention the OL and RB injuries.

Cam had a pretty bad game tonight, but the one great drive we had? When Cam was allowed to audible and do his own thing. Maybe he always has the ability to and never does, or maybe, just for that 2nd half opening series he was allowed to, whatever the case, we need more of it. Also, more quick hitting routes. Something that needs to be repped and a part of the weekly gameplan. These 7 step drops are killing Cam right now because teams can sit back in zone and just wait for the OL to collapse. Nobody is open. Fans yell for him to get rid of the ball quicker, but when every route is a 10-15 yard dig or a post or a flag route, it's kinda hard to. He needs the slants, the quick hooks, the in-and-out routes 3 yards from the LOS. He needs the rollout and dump it 5-8 yards plays. These are the things that get him going.

Cam looked worse in his passing as the game went along, and I attribute it mostly to not letting him get a rhythm. I get you gotta take your deep shots, but EVERY PASS does not need to be a medium to long throw. You can throw it behind the sticks and get YAC. Worse case, it's as good as a run. If you let Cam get in a rhythm, he's more accurate. We have seen it all year and it's not just a Cam thing. It's a QB thing. He's still young. He can't just go out and, no matter the circumstances, hit every route perfectly. He's not Peyton. He's a different type of QB and that is fine. He just needs an offense that compliments and caters to what he needs and what he does. Shula is not giving him that, at least not consistently, and that is the problem.

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Kind of matches our record which has steadily gone down too. Cam deserves some blame, although I know it's hard for many of you to see that. He was purely awful tonight.

we understand he deserves some blame... but i truly believe he is the best QB we've ever had and that we should keep him or roll the dice and get another pickles, moore, carr... oh dear Jesus no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

i understand you guys want to blame the QB and that makes sense... but no one other than Brady, or Manning could do better with this bunch and these awesome play callers we have

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