Just Remember JR was the one that wanted to keep Rivera.

[Snake]

We might have been the ones with Chip Kelly if not for JRs move to keep Rivera under all circumstances even if he was part of the old Hurney system that did not work. Now we are setting out yet another season lookng to the draft and hoping at some point the nightmare of Rivera's coach career to be over. There was a reason no one wanted him as a HC and there is a reason we are still sub .500 most seasons. JR needs to let DG take control with his own plan and see where it leads us because we are going no where like we are. 

[CamMoon]

You get what you pay for.

[BIGH2001]

Don't worry he's already scouting the next defensive coach to come in and play with an offense from the 70s and 80s.

[Ruff]

JR should be deemed mentally unfit to run an NFL franchise.

[CRA]

Dave has taken control.....

Gross, 89, the over emphasis on DL while neglecting the rest.........Dave is in control.

[Snake]

Dave has taken control.....

Gross, 89, the over emphasis on DL while neglecting the rest.........Dave is in control.

 

It could be a ploy to tank the season and fire Rivera. Who knows? All I know is Rivera does not help himself out much on game day.

[Mr. Scot]

It could be a ploy to tank the season and fire Rivera. Who knows? All I know is Rivera does not help himself out much on game day.

 

It's not a ploy.

 

Rivera isn't a good head coach.  Last season was a fluke.

 

[jumpman910]

Sometimes your just too old to make good decisions

[shelbypanther]

JR cares about the balance sheet and not a damned thing else.  fug him.

[Password is Taco]

pie charts

[Kevin Greene]

We might have been the ones with Chip Kelly if not for JRs move to keep Rivera under all circumstances even if he was part of the old Hurney system that did not work. Now we are setting out yet another season lookng to the draft and hoping at some point the nightmare of Rivera's coach career to be over. There was a reason no one wanted him as a HC and there is a reason we are still sub .500 most seasons. JR needs to let DG take control with his own plan and see where it leads us because we are going no where like we are. 

 

 

When did we have absolute confirmation this was Richardson's decision?

Link please.

[JawnyBlaze]

When did we have absolute confirmation this was Richardson's decision?

Link please.

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8846597/jerry-richardson-carolina-panthers-sure-dave-gettleman-ron-rivera-fix-things

 

 

Gettleman did not have any input on the decision to retain Rivera. In fact, the two men never met until last week.

 

It was on Gettleman for extending him, but we had just won 12 games.  Couldn't have seemed like such a bad idea at the time.

[Kevin Greene]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8846597/jerry-richardson-carolina-panthers-sure-dave-gettleman-ron-rivera-fix-things

 

 

It was on Gettleman for extending him, but we had just won 12 games.  Couldn't have seemed like such a bad idea at the time.

 

 

Gettleman was the GM for an entire year before Rivera signed his 3 year extension was he not?

[JawnyBlaze]

Gettleman was the GM for an entire year before Rivera signed his 3 year extension was he not?

 

Well like I said, that year we won 12 games.  He obviously didn't want to have another Fox scenario of the "lame duck coach".  I'm not saying it was the right move, especially in hindsight, but it's not a decision I would hold against him.  The logic is there.  He didn't have a choice initially.  Ron should have been fired after the same year Hurney was and Gettleman should have been allowed to choose a coach.