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Jason Avant Cut

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Mr. Scot Grand Master

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I highly doubt Avant was the only player on the team, and particularly the offense, who felt that way.

 

Rivera has been blaming the players for his own incompetence for too long.

 

Watch Greg Olsen's face when he gives interviews.

 

It's the classic face of a guy biting his tongue.

 

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I don't think they ever actually believed in King and McNutt that much.

Per Voth, they knew early on that they weren't going to be able to pay what the best receivers wanted, so they'd have to go with role players. And that approach is fine, if you use them like role players.

They didn't.

Yet another Rivera lie.

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Separate the fact that we agree with Avant's comments and a player trashing his coach. Just because Avant was right doesn't mean it's ok.

A vet Avant answering a simple question professionally .....doesn't exactly make him wrong him either.

It does highlight Rivera's weakness as a HC. But really it could simply be more of a Ron issue than Avant being wrong

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Watch Greg Olsen's face when he gives interviews.

 

It's the classic face of a guy biting his tongue.

 

 

Yeah I agree, he doesn't have to say it. Though, if things keep getting uglier, him and others may eventually speak out.

 

It will be interesting to see how the team responds after this move and Rivera's decision at the end of the game this past Sunday.

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A vet Avant answering a simple question professionally .....doesn't exactly make him wrong him either.

It does highlight Rivera's weakness as a HC. But really it could simply be more of a Ron issue than Avant being wrong

 

 

I understand what you're saying - most people here are agreeing with you. I personally think answering a question that calls out your coach/boss is unprofessional - no matter the manner in which is was delivered. I'm sure he's not the only one feeling the frustration but he's the only one pointing fingers. Zod's made it pretty clear that Olsen has to bite his tongue when he was responding to questions. If I (politely) pointed fingers at my boss I would expect repercussions. 

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Watch Greg Olsen's face when he gives interviews.

It's the classic face of a guy biting his tongue.

Mentioned this earlier in this thread.

Go watch his interview from Monday if you already haven't. His tone completely changed when asked about the play calling and it was pretty obvious he was doing his best to hold back his true feelings

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Avant already got cut last year for speaking out of turn, not sure why this is so surprising and upsetting to some of you.

 

He wasn't fast, had drops, so-so blocker, no special teams and publicly called out a coach on the hottest of hot seats after a home divisional loss to a team we should have steam-rolled.

 

The only thing disappointing about this is a team with solid leadership would have pulled the trigger Monday.

 

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Just because something is the truth, does not mean that you can always be free to spout it.

 

"Damn woman, your azz looks 3 feet wide in that dress"  for instance.

 

Coaches cannot get in front of the microphone and say:

 

"Cam really sucked today, he overthrew like every other throw, no way we can win like that"

"We are really in a bind because of the money situation, we have 2 guys at OT that are waaaaaay over their head and we know it"

"We hate having Hardy on the exempt list, because the rest of the DE's just don't seem to be able to get any pressure at all"

"We might have a better running game, but the guys on our team making all the money, can't seem to avoid injuries cause they aren't getting any younger"

 

See, coaches cannot do that, you cannot say something just because you feel it the truth and players aren't exempt.

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Yeah I agree, he doesn't have to say it. Though, if things keep getting uglier, him and others may eventually speak out.

 

It will be interesting to see how the team responds after this move and Rivera's decision at the end of the game this past Sunday.

 

 

Yeah I'm really curious too. I wonder how the bye week will impact it as well. Seems like they could easily say "fug it" after getting to sit at home for a week. 

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Just because something is the truth, does not mean that you can always be free to spout it.

"Damn woman, your azz looks 3 feet wide in that dress" for instance.

Coaches cannot get in front of the microphone and say:

"Cam really sucked today, he overthrew like every other throw, no way we can win like that"

"We are really in a bind because of the money situation, we have 2 guys at OT that are waaaaaay over their head and we know it"

"We hate having Hardy on the exempt list, because the rest of the DE's just don't seem to be able to get any pressure at all"

"We might have a better running game, but the guys on our team making all the money, can't seem to avoid injuries cause they aren't getting any younger"

See, coaches cannot do that, you cannot say something just because you feel it the truth and players aren't exempt.

lol gruden did
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I understand what you're saying - most people here are agreeing with you. I personally think answering a question that calls out your coach/boss is unprofessional - no matter the manner in which is was delivered. I'm sure he's not the only one feeling the frustration but he's the only one pointing fingers. Zod's made it pretty clear that Olsen has to bite his tongue when he was responding to questions. If I (politely) pointed fingers at my boss I would expect repercussions. 

Yeah.

 

He also could have found a better way to say it.

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