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2nd and Shorts (and what you already know)

davos

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I've seen a few people mention it around here,but I felt like putting the spotlight under this for a second.  

 

Since Shula took over, one of the most obvious flaws in his coaching ability and what gives us a peak at Rivera's real mentality (not that phony riverboat BS) is our 2nd down play-calling.  Instead of calling play actions and bootlegs with Cam fuggin' Newton, we continue to run the ball up the gut almost every 2nd & 3rd (or shorter).  The opposing defense will either disguise or show blitz, we don't teach Cam to audible in these situations, and we continue to run it right up the gut.  

 

Now we all know Shula sucks and should/will be gone but these type of playcalls have an effect on our young guys and team's mentality.  It's the same as when we play for a tie, play for a lead with 1:30 instead of a win, etc. and it's been the most consistent mentally draining aspect of this team for 2 years now.  

 

Even the most conservative HC/OC duos have understood this aspect of an NFL offense.  We're talking properly timing play actions and utilizing short down situations when you have a few chances after a good 1st down.  It's completely flipped.  We run on 2nd and shorts, and go for the bomb on 3rd and shorts.  We call play actions on 3rd and 12+ (this is worse than a Henning-style draw bc we are making ourselves lose more yards in a situation where we aren't making any defender bite)

 

Before this year is over, I want to see someone in the media call out this style play calling because even the Jets and Jags have the modern NFL offense more figured out than this staff does.   

 

rgghhH!

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Twice on one drive we had 2nd & 1 in a good position to take a shot down field into the endzone. You don't always have to do it, but we never do. We just run the ball and try to go ahead and get the first down.

That isn't the worst thing, but those are the type of down and distance you can take a shot or get creative. These two plays I noticed we were around 4 down territory anyway so fug it. Take a shot.

We miss opportunities to score when u don't take advantage of those moments

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Twice on one drive we had 2nd & 1 in a good position to take a shot down field into the endzone. You don't always have to do it, but we never do. We just run the ball and try to go ahead and get the first down.

That isn't the worst thing, but those are the type of down and distance you can take a shot or get creative. These two plays I noticed we were around 4 down territory anyway so fug it. Take a shot.

We miss opportunities to score when u don't take advantage of those moments

 

It's also a big factor in why our RZ offense is so atrocious.   

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it's amazing, because if we were passing on 2nd and short, that would be a complaint.   It's not illogical to run the ball on a short distance, and it more or less worked.  This team didn't lose because they ran the ball too much on 2nd and short. 

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All you need is a double TE, bunch I-formation that's a PA to Tolbert, B-Will or Dickson.  That's how they could at least learn how to properly use those guys.  

 

This coaching staff just out thinks themselves all the fricken time 

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Twice on one drive we had 2nd & 1 in a good position to take a shot down field into the endzone. You don't always have to do it, but we never do. We just run the ball and try to go ahead and get the first down.

That isn't the worst thing, but those are the type of down and distance you can take a shot or get creative. These two plays I noticed we were around 4 down territory anyway so fug it. Take a shot.

We miss opportunities to score when u don't take advantage of those moments

2-1 have always been considered a free down. You don't get it then you can easily run.
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