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Knox Bardeen: Bucs > Panthers (Currently...?)

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Ol' Knox has moved up in the world. From Bleacher Report during the offseason to Fox Sports now.  Bardeen may be trolling Panthers fans a little though.  Why is he going out of his way to tell us that we suck?  We already know. 

 

Anyway, I am sure there are still a few vestiges of Panthers fans that are holding on to hope that maybe serendipity will spring our way. But, really, after  reading his reasoning it looks like we are worse than the Bucs.  The part that I find kind of interesting---because I just take it for granted that the Bucs are obviously the true bottom feeder here---is that Bardeen is intimating that the Bucs may be in a better position---from damned near top to bottom---going forward.

 

Taking off my homer glasses for a minute...could Bardeen be right about the short to mid term viability of the respective franchises?  And what does this mean for us?

 

Link (No need to bother because most of it's here)

 

 
If you focus solely on games played after Week 2 (Carolina started the season with wins over Tampa Bay and Detroit), the Panthers have allowed 31 points per game and have just one win (a seven-point victory over Chicago in Week 5) in 10 games.
 
In that 10-game span, the Panthers' average margin of defeat, in eight games, has been 16.6 points per game. Carolina's net points total since Week 3 is minus-126.
 
What makes Carolina's losses tougher to swallow is that the Panthers haven't really been close to winning. Six losses have been by at least 18 points. Three have been by at least three touchdowns.
 
Look at Tampa Bay in comparison.
 
The Buccaneers are 2-8 since Week 3 (a half game better than Carolina) and have been so much closer to winning games.
Tampa Bay has lost two overtime games, and finished five on the wrong side of a game that was as close as a touchdown and a two-point conversion. Where Carolina has just two single-digit losses since Week 3, Tampa Bay has five.
 
Take away two absolute shellacking's at the hands of Atlanta (42-point loss) and Baltimore (31-point loss), and Tampa Bay's numbers get even better.
 
The simple matter is this: Tampa Bay and Carolina have both lost eight games over their last 10 played. The Panthers are losing by an average of 16.6 points per game, and the Bucs 13.6. While those figures seem close, they are greatly skewed by two enormous margins of defeat.
 
And consider that Tampa Bay's net points total is minus-86 since Week 3, 40 points better than Carolina's.
 
Tampa Bay has been tougher to beat of late. And if you want more proof that Carolina is worse off right now than Tampa Bay, put on your head coach/general manager hat and consider which team you'd rather take over.
 
The only three areas of Carolina's roster that shine brighter than Tampa Bay's are quarterback -- and Cam Newton is starting to look less and less like the prize he was supposed to be -- linebacker and defensive line. The linebacker corps in Tampa Bay is closer to matching Carolina's than most people think, and without Greg Hardy, the defensive line comparison is almost a wash.
 
When it comes to the receiving corps, running backs, offensive line and secondary, the Buccaneers have the better units.

 

 

 

Gulp. I am not a whippersnapper anymore. I am a little bit unnerved.  I want to see the Lombardi raised by a Panther one day while still a relatively young man.

 

The only thing that I can do is hope that G-man is who he thinks he is.

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I can't say that he's wrong, but he's looking at this situation as it stands now, and speculating on what will happen going forward (which is what we all do), but who's to say we don't get our poo together in the FO and hit on a stud draft pick (cough*Amari Cooper*cough) and it's a whole new discussion.

 

Side note, typically when I see that someone works/or has worked for Bleacher Report I take a spoonful of salt with anything that is written.  IMO, if a reporter covers more than one team, then you can't know all of the nuances of any one team. Just my opinion.

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I can't say that he's wrong, but he's looking at this situation as it stands now, and speculating on what will happen going forward (which is what we all do), but who's to say we don't get our poo together in the FO and hit on a stud draft pick (cough*Amari Cooper*cough) and it's a whole new discussion.

 

Side note, typically when I see that someone works/or has worked for Bleacher Report I take a spoonful of salt with anything that is written.  IMO, if a reporter covers more than one team, then you can't know all of the nuances of any one team. Just my opinion.

I'm on the Cooper train too, as long as we can grab a starting LT in FA, I think we would be in good shape... in another system of course.

 

BR is located in the same building I get my hair did, always considered getting off on their floor and popping my head in.

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Right now Tampa does look better

We look better than Oakland. That's it.

And if we keep throwing a new group of garbage OL and a new mix of bad WRs out each week around Cam.....that isn't going to change the next 4 weeks

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I'm on the Cooper train too, as long as we can grab a starting LT in FA, I think we would be in good shape... in another system of course.

 

BR is located in the same building I get my hair did, always considered getting off on their floor and popping my head in.

 

I hate to tell you. Unless we get lucky, there aren't any LTs worth a damn coming up in FA.

 

I guess you never know though.

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I hate to tell you. Unless we get lucky, there aren't any LTs worth a damn coming up in FA.

 

I guess you never know though.

the one guy, injury risk though would be Roos. There will be a couple guys out there and at least DG knows that being left handed doesnt automatically mean success at LT. Point is, he swung and missed with Hardy, Bell, Chandler, Decoud, Harper and Cason after hitting all home runs last year. Hopefully next offseason will be successful.

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