NFL states they will 'no longer rely on the legal system'

[Nick_81]

Honestly, with most major corporations, if you're accused of a crime - especially domestic violence or a sex crime - it's true that they're not going to launch their own investigation. More than likely, they'll just go ahead and fire you.

Wanna sue? Okay. the company will probably cite their right to protect their image and assets as well as their duty to protect female employees from a hostile environment (something which a potential abuser in their midst would create). And in all likelihood, your case will get thrown out.

I'm not sure what your work experience has been, but the truth is even in states that recognize you as having a right to work, no one can say they have a right to work for a particular employer. So if that employer terminates you,that's pretty much it.

The courts have backed up the rights of companies to fire an employee who posted something unflattering on social media. What makes you think they'd overturn the firing of someone charged with an actual crime?

It's not about that.  I'm completely fine with the rights of corporations.  I understand they can terminate employment for whatever reason they want.  I'm fine with that as well.  The issue is, like I previously said, is the NFL is trying to play judge/jury/executioner, and that could lead to some major problems.  This is completely different than how any major corporation handles any situation.  Now, if they said, we can terminate your employment for any reason except race, religion, sexual orientation, etc.... no problem.  

 

Like I said before, I don't really care what they do.  Just kind of playing devils advocate.

[jtm]

I don't know how I feel about this. Everyone company I work for those have policies in order where they can decide on your employment status based on incidents in and out of work. My thing is then, is it making the NFL above the law? Hardy situation aside, what if a player gets accused of said crime and there was not enough evidence to convict him? Can the NFL look at the evidence themselves and then suspend player just because of what they think? To me that is not right. Kind of like a double jeopardy? Maybe not the same thing but you get my drift. I guess bottom line would be, try not to put yourself into these situations but sometimes things happen..

Most of us live in an at-will employment state and this means an employer can fire you for any reason or no reason at all. The only exception is you can't fire based on discrimination.

Why the NFL should be different is beyond me. I'd fire Hardy just for having assault weapons out in the open with drugs and alcohol around.

[jayflip]

Since he is no longer a Panther I really don't care if he sits the entire season.

I agree with this assessment. The only thing I care about in regards to Hardy is us getting a comp pick from him, which we won't now.

[SpeedOFLight]

Most of us live in an at-will employment state and this means an employer can fire you for any reason or no reason at all. The only exception is you can't fire based on discrimination.

Why the NFL should be different is beyond me. I'd fire Hardy just for having assault weapons out in the open with drugs and alcohol around.

 

 

True. You are correct on that my friend.

[MountainHeel66]

There'd have to be enough evidence to make it credible. And frankly. if there's enough evidence that the police are willing to arrest you, then there's probably enough to fire you.

 

Actually, in most cases when accused of domestic violence you are arrested automatically.

 

The MAJOR problem in all of this is exactly that. Most of us don't work jobs that pay us well enough to have to worry about fans, groupies, gold diggers, etc. all trying to get a piece of you in some way or another. Its very easy to get taken and now you have just given all of the attention and money seeking whores a much easier path to players money. Hell even just a scorned gf who goes a bit nuts (don't we all have one or more of those?) could cry foul and its an instant "he said she said" where the NFL has shown it wants to lean towards what "she said." 

 

The best possible solution I can think of if the NFL wants to protect itself is to get a third party investigation team approved by itself and the NFLPA that can come in and do some digging and try to get an unbiased judgement of the situation BEFORE pronouncing a sentence. This should not be in the hands of someone who has a dog in the fight. Gets the players their best shot at protection from the psychos and clingers and gives the NFL an unbiased leg to stand on that shows they aren't on a witch hunt or trying to cover their own @$$es.

[Mr. Scot]

The best possible solution I can think of if the NFL wants to protect itself is to get a third party investigation team approved by itself and the NFLPA that can come in and do some digging and try to get an unbiased judgement of the situation BEFORE pronouncing a sentence. This should not be in the hands of someone who has a dog in the fight. Gets the players their best shot at protection from the psychos and clingers and gives the NFL an unbiased leg to stand on that shows they aren't on a witch hunt or trying to cover their own @$$es.

 

I can agree with that idea, and that might be something they explore when they set up the next CBA.

[Panthers8969]

If you don't like their rules, go play in the CFL or don't put yourself in situations where you can get into trouble...aka be an adult!

I don't know anyone that thinks that's what being an adult is.