Shaq Thompson profootballfocus #most overrated player.

[Growl]

Guy is a product of Huddle wannabe draft gurus thinking they "discovered" someone and blowing him up as happens every year.

He isn't a first round player.

[Bartin]

Unlike Landon Collins (subpar athlete/subpar coverage skills), Shaq is an elite athlete with elite coverage skills who just needs to be coached up. If there is one thing Rivera-coached teams are good at, it is coaching up defensive players. Shaq would be a perfect pick for a Rivera-coached team.

 

Collins has subpar coverage skills for a Safety. Thompson has elite coverage skills for a Linebacker. There is a big difference there and that is pretty much the definition of an apples to oranges comparison. The only time Shaq played safety in college was against Stanford and as you might imagine there is very little there to properly evaluate his coverage ability at that position since they run the ball 60% of the time as they did in that game.

 

If you believe in SPARQ scores, Thompson and Collins are really similar athletes with Thompson being marginally better and both are below the 50th percentile for their positions.

[EMSMedic79]

He won't go in the first. He may still be there when we pick in the second. People have fallen before with better traits.

[gettlemanjack]

Guy is a product of Huddle wannabe draft gurus thinking they "discovered" someone and blowing him up as happens every year.

He isn't a first round player.

one could just as easily say:

Guy is a product of Huddle wannabe draft gurus thinking they "discovered" something that leads them to seriously underrate him as happens every year.

He would clearly be a great pick at #25

Even top talent evaluators will look at the same prospect and have two completely different opinions on the same guy. Mel Kiper has Shaq on his list of the 10 safest prospects in the Draft, pointing out that Shaq's floor is being a very good NFL starter. All that matters is what the Panthers organization thinks

[FuFuLamePoo]

We're gonna take BPA, whether it be offense or defense.

It'smore likely to be offense, but a player like Landon Collins ison the board, well, prepare to be mad

i don't even think landon Collins is that good. We have an elite talent at QB but if we don't committ to building around him we'll never see what he's truly capable of

[gettlemanjack]

Collins has subpar coverage skills for a Safety. Thompson has elite coverage skills for a Linebacker. There is a big difference there and that is pretty much the definition of an apples to oranges comparison. The only time Shaq played safety in college was against Stanford and as you might imagine there is very little there to properly evaluate his coverage ability at that position since they run the ball 60% of the time as they did in that game.

If you believe in SPARQ scores, Thompson and Collins are really similar athletes with Thompson being marginally better and both are below the 50th percentile for their positions.

Shaq was a nickel-back as a freshman in 2012. Collins is not good at covering TEs, RBs, and WRs. Shaq is excellent at it. That is apppes-to-apples. SPARQ is based off combine performance. Shaq's combine performance was as good or better than the All-Pro players he compares to. Landon Collins isn't even as athletic as Andrew Luck:

Luck is bigger, and he beat Landon Collins in every event at the Combine other than the 40 yard dash. Neither did the bench press (Landon sat on his Combine results at his Pro Day, except for the bench, which he did an unimpressive 16 reps)

Cal Morton @ TexaSun

26 Feb 12

Wish the QBs at the #nflcombine had done benchpress , Andrew

Luck would have killed it.

225 Lb. Bench Reps:

16 - Landon Collins

DNP - Luck

Size:

6-4/234 - Luck

6-0/228 - Landon Collins

Vertical Jump:

36.0 - Luck

35.0 - Landon Collins

Broad Jump:

10'04" - Luck

10'00" - Landon Collins

3-Cone Drill:

6.80 - Luck

7:38 - Landon Collins

20 Yrd Shuttle:

4.28 - Luck

4.33 - Landon Collins

PhillyDraft @ Randyljobst

Mar 6

You like Landon Collins? You know his 3- cone time is slower than

the Eagles center right?

Philadelphia Daily News Les Bowen @ LesBowen

Apr 2

Just based on how they view safety position -- athleticism ,

versatility key -- I wouldn’t be shocked if Eagles passed on

Landon Collins

[gettlemanjack]

plus you don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize Landon Collins has very little upside, as he is a subpar athlete that got the best defensive coaching in college football (Saban) and played on a team that had an overwhelming talent superiority to pretty much every team they faced

[Bartin]

plus you don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize Landon Collins has very little upside, as he is a subpar athlete that got the best defensive coaching in college football (Saban) and played on a team that had an overwhelming talent superiority to pretty much every team they faced

 

Washington had four 1st or 2nd rounders in this draft on defense last year(Shelton, Thompson, Kikaha, Peters). 3 after Peters got kicked off the team in November. That's a lot of talent.

 

Collins was very good in coverage as a sophomore when he weighed 215. He put on 15 lbs at the coaches request and struggled as a result. If I draft Collins I ask him to lose that weight to play safety or add 10 to play OLB.

[Captain Morgan]

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 Shaq Thompson said he has received more interest from the Panthers than any other team. 

 

 

Read more at http://walterfootball.com/nflrumors.php#HOkXIUOZrKaDAF7K.99

[Ken]

I haven't watched him to have an opinion one way or the other, and I generally like PFF insights, but they also think Kuechly is way overrated which tells me they aren't always super accurate.

 

Way overrated? Nah, they just didn't think he was DPoTY when he won it. 

 

They actually said he was better this season than last, which I agree with slightly. They have him as elite.

[Bartin]

 

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 Shaq Thompson said he has received more interest from the Panthers than any other team. 

 

 

Read more at http://walterfootball.com/nflrumors.php#HOkXIUOZrKaDAF7K.99

 

 

He's definitely in play for us, but Jonathan Jones had this to say about him in an article yesterday.

 

 

 

A team source indicated getting Thompson with the 25th overall pick may be a reach

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article19327242.html#storylink=cpy

 

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article19327242.html

[Dex]

He should be a safety.

[rodeo]

He's not the guy I want but I wouldn't be mad. Rivera can coach him up.

[rodeo]

He's definitely in play for us, but Jonathan Jones had this to say about him in an article yesterday.

 

 

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article19327242.html

 

We may be facing a Kony Ealy situation where he drops to us in the 2nd. That would be friggin fantastic. Peat in the 1st, Shaq in the 2nd. WR in the 3rd.