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http://footballgameplan.com/time-to-pay-supercam/

 

Good morning Panthers fans! Here's an article written by our Turron Davenport talking about how the Panthers can & should go about Newton's contract.

 

Enjoy!

 

Em

 

P.S.

 

My draft grades video for you guys will be coming within the next week

 

Cheers Em, how did your mock drafts hold up this year?

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"That being said, Newton’s deal will likely come in around five years, $115 million with $55 million guaranteed."

 

Well written, except the Panthers were not 7-9 last year as stated.  We tied the Bengals.

 

I have been saying $22-23 million too, and I think that is what this will ultimately be.  I imagine the guaranteed money is the issue.

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"That being said, Newton’s deal will likely come in around five years, $115 million with $55 million guaranteed."

 

Well written, except the Panthers were not 7-9 last year as stated.  We tied the Bengals.

 

I have been saying $22-23 million too, and I think that is what this will ultimately be.  I imagine the guaranteed money is the issue.

 

Doesn't the guaranteed money go immediately into escrow in full? My point is, I wonder if part of the reason these "talks" are going so slow (aside from no one really being in a hurry) is that they (the ownership) doesn't have x amount of cash on hand to put into escrow immediately? Perhaps the 2 sides are closer than everyone thinks and they are just waiting to get the guaranteed money together so they can execute the deal.

 

Or I could be completely wrong and JR et al do have that kind of cash lying around. But I'd be surprised if they keep $50-70 million in cash on hand. That would be stupid I would think. Anyways, just bringing up an element that I hadn't seen discussed anywhere.

 

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Doesn't the guaranteed money go immediately into escrow in full? My point is, I wonder if part of the reason these "talks" are going so slow (aside from no one really being in a hurry) is that they (the ownership) doesn't have x amount of cash on hand to put into escrow immediately? Perhaps the 2 sides are closer than everyone thinks and they are just waiting to get the guaranteed money together so they can execute the deal.

 

Or I could be completely wrong and JR et al do have that kind of cash lying around. But I'd be surprised if they keep $50-70 million in cash on hand. That would be stupid I would think. Anyways, just bringing up an element that I hadn't seen discussed anywhere.

 

 

You just raised this thing to a level of details that escapes my limited knowledge on the topic, but you make interesting points and I hope someone who knows can shed some light on this.

 

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Cheers Em, how did your mock drafts hold up this year?

 

Cheers! Same as every year..hit/miss.  Cool part is that a lot of late round picks for teams I nailed.  And a good bit of the Film Session guys I featured ended up on rosters or got drafted!

 

Em called us drafting Funchess a long time ago.

 

I want to say it was in either my Midseason or January mock I thought he'd be a great fit for you guys.

 

"That being said, Newton’s deal will likely come in around five years, $115 million with $55 million guaranteed."

 

Well written, except the Panthers were not 7-9 last year as stated.  We tied the Bengals.

 

I have been saying $22-23 million too, and I think that is what this will ultimately be.  I imagine the guaranteed money is the issue.

 

Thanks! It tends to always come down to the guarantees 

 

Sounds about right. 20 mil a year is prob the best we can hope for now.

 

I think you and Moorgan are on the same page

 

Doesn't the guaranteed money go immediately into escrow in full? My point is, I wonder if part of the reason these "talks" are going so slow (aside from no one really being in a hurry) is that they (the ownership) doesn't have x amount of cash on hand to put into escrow immediately? Perhaps the 2 sides are closer than everyone thinks and they are just waiting to get the guaranteed money together so they can execute the deal.

 

Or I could be completely wrong and JR et al do have that kind of cash lying around. But I'd be surprised if they keep $50-70 million in cash on hand. That would be stupid I would think. Anyways, just bringing up an element that I hadn't seen discussed anywhere.

 

 

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Doesn't the guaranteed money go immediately into escrow in full? My point is, I wonder if part of the reason these "talks" are going so slow (aside from no one really being in a hurry) is that they (the ownership) doesn't have x amount of cash on hand to put into escrow immediately? Perhaps the 2 sides are closer than everyone thinks and they are just waiting to get the guaranteed money together so they can execute the deal.

Or I could be completely wrong and JR et al do have that kind of cash lying around. But I'd be surprised if they keep $50-70 million in cash on hand. That would be stupid I would think. Anyways, just bringing up an element that I hadn't seen discussed anywhere.

Id be shocked if they didn't have the cash right now to put into escrow.

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Doesn't the guaranteed money go immediately into escrow in full? My point is, I wonder if part of the reason these "talks" are going so slow (aside from no one really being in a hurry) is that they (the ownership) doesn't have x amount of cash on hand to put into escrow immediately? Perhaps the 2 sides are closer than everyone thinks and they are just waiting to get the guaranteed money together so they can execute the deal.

 

Or I could be completely wrong and JR et al do have that kind of cash lying around. But I'd be surprised if they keep $50-70 million in cash on hand. That would be stupid I would think. Anyways, just bringing up an element that I hadn't seen discussed anywhere.

 

 

Guaranteed money only has to go into escrow if it is fully guaranteed. There are 3 types of guarantees and they are skill, injury, salary cap. Most of the time when guaranteed money is reported only a small portion is fully guaranteed(meaning it is guaranteed for all 3 reasons) and the majority is guaranteed for injury or skill and injury. That removes the need to put a large amount of money in escrow and is why the Suh deal was so unprecedented. Miami fully guaranteed him $60M.

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