Florida State dumps QB

[Mr. Scot]

Nope. Not doing that at all. Just wondering why some folks refuse to acknowledge that she had something to do with the way things turned out. Oh I forgot, she has ovaries.

You might not realize this, but when you say stuff like that, you come off sounding like a guy looking for a reason to justify hitting a woman.

If that's not how you wanna sound, you might wanna dump the whole 'ovaries' schtick.

[PoundCat]

You might not realize this, but when you say stuff like that, you come off sounding like a guy looking for a reason to justify hitting a woman.

If that's not how you wanna sound, you might wanna dump the whole 'ovaries' schtick.

I never have and never will  hit a woman, and I don't think the football player was justified in this case either. I have called him barbaric, neanderthal, idiot, and can think of a few more descriptive words to describe him. I'm just saying there is blame on both sides, and she doesn't get a free pass just because she has....you know the rest.

[tondi]

You never hear about little wormy guys attacking big burly football players because they know they would get beat down and nobody would care so why do weak assed women constantly think they can haul off and hit big ass football players and get away with it untouched?

[Devil Doc]

The fact is, just because someone pissed you off or punched you, doesn't mean you should "Knock Them Out" or "Protect Yourself" Think about it, is it right to punch somebody just because they punched you? Nope, it is not. You honestly think that "Slap/Punch" hurt the football player, I doubt it. As I stated before, he used "Excessive Force" on the situation which makes him the guilty party. IMO she is a tough girl, for taking a punch like that.

Also, What was he doing at a bar? he is only 19? Shouldn't he also get an underage drinking charge also? Legal drinking age is 21.

[PoundCat]

The fact is, just because someone pissed you off or punched you, doesn't mean you should "Knock Them Out" or "Protect Yourself" Think about it, is it right to punch somebody just because they punched you? Nope, it is not. You honestly think that "Slap/Punch" hurt the football player, I doubt it. As I stated before, he used "Excessive Force" on the situation which makes him the guilty party. IMO she is a tough girl, for taking a punch like that.

Also, What was he doing at a bar? he is only 19? Shouldn't he also get an underage drinking charge also? Legal drinking age is 21.

Well said, and I think you are absolutely right. He is a guilty party. I only question if he is the only guilty party in this. BTW, I saw news reports that said it was a "tavern", whatever that means.

This is probably my last post in this topic....can we go back to arguing about Bersin? :)

[MHS831]

LOL at the White Knights in this thread. Equal rights is a two-way street. 

 

So is the first amendment. 

[kungfoodude]

The fact is, just because someone pissed you off or punched you, doesn't mean you should "Knock Them Out" or "Protect Yourself" Think about it, is it right to punch somebody just because they punched you? Nope, it is not. You honestly think that "Slap/Punch" hurt the football player, I doubt it. As I stated before, he used "Excessive Force" on the situation which makes him the guilty party. IMO she is a tough girl, for taking a punch like that.

Also, What was he doing at a bar? he is only 19? Shouldn't he also get an underage drinking charge also? Legal drinking age is 21.

+9000

I think that gets pretty lost in the "White Knights vs. Realists" argument here. I don't think anyone here thinks he was right to punch her. Especially because since he is bigger and stronger it really doesn't take much for it to be "excessive force." The majority of altercations have some level of equal blame to go around and this one isn't any different. Alcohol and being a dumbass never mix well and you have two pretty good examples here. 

Agree as well on her chin. Didn't look like her legs buckled any. Weak defense though, probably should have freed that other arm or at least moved her head to avoid the counter punch. Looked like pretty poor foot work as well, really gonna need to get back in the gym and work on that. Maybe she can get with Mayweather Sr. and get some tips.

[Jeremy Igo]

I think it's a sad state of affairs when taking a stand and saying punching women in the face is wrong is seen as being a "white knight". It's called having dignity.

[kungfoodude]

I just think there are rarely any absolutes, so when someone says, "It is NEVER okay to hit a woman" I just disagree. By and large, those are minority cases but they do exist.

 

If Ronda Rousey ever came charging after me, I am definitely taking a swing at her. It's the only shot I have at continuing to have four limbs.

[Mr. Scot]

I just think there are rarely any absolutes, so when someone says, "It is NEVER okay to hit a woman" I just disagree. By and large, those are minority cases but they do exist.

If Ronda Rousey ever came charging after me, I am definitely taking a swing at her. It's the only shot I have at continuing to have four limbs.

The chick in this story isn't anything close to Ronda Rousey.

[kungfoodude]

The chick in this story isn't anything close to Ronda Rousey.

Yes.

[kungfoodude]

Bye bye arm.

It's the only shot I have! Probably can't outrun her, DEFINITELY not going clinch with her, kicking would be an even worse idea....miracle haymaker is the only legit option. She has a very untested chin as well, so it gives me that 0.1% chance.

[Mr. Scot]

It's the only shot I have! Probably can't outrun her, DEFINITELY not going clinch with her, kicking would be an even worse idea....miracle haymaker is the only legit option. She has a very untested chin as well, so it gives me that 0.1% chance.

Well, there's also the "curl up in a ball and say please don't hurt me" defense.

I might recommend that as a better option in the situation you describe.

[kungfoodude]

Well, there's also the "curl up in a ball and say please don't hurt me" defense.

I might recommend that as a better option in the situation you describe.

Yeah but will the ball be tight enough to avoid a limb being wrenched out? I am not sure I trust my grip strength that much. Choke is always an option but I would have to think that if she is charging me that bad intentions are meant and that is really mercy.