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How Elite is this defense going to be?


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When you think of the addition of Peanut and Coleman to this defense.  Where really is a weakness? 

Our defense in the first half was tough against the first team offense of the reigning Super Bowl Champs.  And that was without 3/4 of our starting Defensive Line.

Every spot we have a quality player on our defense.The way McDermott and Wilks run this defense as long as we stay healthy the sky is the limit.

I sometimes cannot contain my excitement over this defensive squad. 

Could this defense be as good as any in NFL History?  Could we set records with this defense?

It is going to be good to see if we can.

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Middle of the pack due to spending way too much time on the field due to continued offensive ineptitude. 

A valid point. The offense will need to string together some first downs and long drives to give the D a break. Some points on the board would be nice, too, though 17 or 21 may be enough. I like what I've seen lately out of Ealy, but I'd like to see it on a regular basis.

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Calm it down with the "shut down Tom Brady" narrative, he had a combined 43 passer rating with 3/9 completions in his first two games and is going through some personal issues with Gisele at the moment so we really need to calm down about the performance against NE.

We're not elite yet and no where near the best defenses in NFL history. We have a legitimate hole at DE and need to get the Dline healthy before we start getting too excited. 

There are alot of weapons for McDermott to use in the blitz packages and the secondary can absolutely get tighter in man coverage than we could at the beginning of last year. 

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I think it really depends on if Star can stay healthy or not. I know that our defense has tons of leaders and talent, ranging from Luke (who I think is both the best player on our team and second only to JJ Watt as the best defensive player in the league), CJ, TD, KK, etc. But, Star is the guy who really takes the pressure off of the linebackers, who really eats up those blocks, and who allows the ends to run so freely.

If both Star and KK stay healthy the entire season, we could easily be the best defense in the NFL, barring one or two in front of us. If Star stays gimpy, we could be looking at a long season.

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We have arguably the best DL in the league

We have arguably the best LB Corps in the League (Lead by arguably the best defensive player in the game)

Our secondary is much improved and I see Tillman being the ring leader of very cocky secondary. We have a great nickel who could be starting in Benewikere.

Our offense will feed off of great field position and get into a groove.

Don't give me that GD Brady is having personal issues.  He's the starting QB for the reigning SB champs.  He has been running Billicheats offense for many years.  I think he should be able to do this in his sleep.  Give the defense credit instead of making excuses for the biggest baby in the NFL.

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They'll be awesome around week 10 when Harper gets hurt and Coleman comes in and suddenly we have run support that doesn't choose the wrong gap and allow 80 yard rushes constantly. The move should be soon enough to end the season strong and boost us to 5-11 or even 6-10.

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Our defense wasn't elite by any standards last year and I don't think they will be this year. 

Roman Harper is a huge liability in coverage, Tillman's health is a question mark, and we are going to be heavily reliant on Kony Ealy to be a very good defensive end. Couple those things with a worrisome Star injury and an offense that is going to keep this defense on the field; I'd say there are some things standing in the way of this defense being elite

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