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Can anyone explain QBR to me?

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It's still called Quarterback Rating. Always has been. ESPN just decided to use the same name in order to over-rule the real Quarterback Rating.  Pro Football Reference still has the original Quarterback Rating stats along with ESPN's Quarterback Rating stats.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NewtCa00.htm

Under the Passing stats if you scroll over "Rate", it still calls it Quarterback rating. Either way, everyone should just ignore ESPN's bullshit.

I suppose if you want a shorter description with less confusion, you can use the term Passer Rating. However, those that have known it the other way for so many years may still get confused. ESPN has just fuged the whole thing up.

People can call it whatever they want but when it was first made it was called passer rating. The NFL on its website states: "Passer rating is used to evaluate passers, not quarterbacks." 

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I think the biggest thing hurting Cam is completion percentage, which by itself is bullshit because it doesn't account for drops, and nobody being open. While some guys dink and dunk and get high completion percentages for just dumping it off to the running back. 

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There is no logical way to explain ESPN's QBR system. 

Cam's game vs Saints (Win): 64.5% completion percentage, 315 passing yards, 10.16 YPA, 2 TDs, 0 INTs, 119.7 passer rating = 86.0 QBR. OK, sounds about right. Btw, ESPN says a 50 QBR is considered average.

Cam's game vs Bucs (Win): 50% completion percentage, 124 passing yards, 5.64 YPA, 2 TDs, 0 INTs, 97.5 passer rating = 19.7 QBR. Yes, Cam did have a fumble in the Bucs game and the completion % looks bad, but there's no reason Cam's QBR should have been that low, especially with 2 TDs, no INTs, and leading a win. 

So, you would think ESPN's QBR heavily weighs completion %, passing yards, and YPA.

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Teddy Bridgewater's game vs Chargers (Win): 54.2% completion percentage, 121 passing yards, 5.04 YPA, 0 TDs, 1 INT, 50.9 passer rating = 62.0 QBR. Huh? So, Teddy's completion % wasn't good either, he had fewer passing yards, no TDs, and had an INT, yet his QBR is 62.0?

 

 

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There is no logical way to explain ESPN's QBR system. 

Cam's game vs Saints (Win): 64.5% completion percentage, 315 passing yards, 10.16 YPA, 2 TDs, 0 INTs, 119.7 passer rating = 86.0 QBR. OK, sounds about right. Btw, ESPN says a 50 QBR is considered average.

Cam's game vs Bucs (Win): 50% completion percentage, 124 passing yards, 5.64 YPA, 2 TDs, 0 INTs, 97.5 passer rating = 19.7 QBR. Yes, Cam did have a fumble in the Bucs game and the completion % looks bad, but there's no reason Cam's QBR should have been that low, especially with 2 TDs, no INTs, and leading a win. 

So, you would think ESPN's QBR heavily weighs completion %, passing yards, and YPA.

But...

Teddy Bridgewater's game vs Chargers (Win): 54.2% completion percentage, 121 passing yards, 5.04 YPA, 0 TDs, 1 INT, 50.9 passer rating = 62.0 QBR. Huh? So, Teddy's completion % wasn't good either, he had fewer passing yards, no TDs, and had an INT, yet his QBR is 62.0?

 

 

Skip Bayless talks about it more than anybody and it's funny how it's been backfiring on him lately. 

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