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Who was better.. Kuechly or Beason in his prime and pre injury?

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Jon Beason was an exceptional LB that was widely considered one of if not the best in the league before his injuries. 

If anything the fact that Kuechly is better than him in his prime by a decent margin speaks to just how otherworldly good Kuechly is. 

But we don't need to marginalize Beason to say how good Kuechly is. 

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the dropoff in talent between beason and willis was huge. Beason was never on hall of fame level, ever. He was good but be realistic.

So multiple all-pro teams is not HOF level?  And if your talking about raw talent, Willis raw talent is better than almost any LB ever and that includes Luke. He ran a 4.3 which is unheard of at LB.

 

And for those saying Morgan was better? LOL I've been following both since they played in Miami, Morgan is not better than Beason, not even close.

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2 all pro votes, and 1 pro bowl from what i remember.

 and no, that does not make you hall of fame good just cause you get all-pro honors. Beason was an above average tackler(for a short time) and an above average coverage lb. In no way in hell did he dominate games on a hall of fame level, he has 4 sacks his entire career, 3 forced fumbles and 0 tds. 

3 pro bowls, 2 all pro votes before the injury...

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Well this is revisionist history at it's finest right here.

Jon had already accumulated three Pro-Bowl appearances at the time of his first significant injury. The only year he didnt prior to that point was his rookie season. He was also a 2x All-Pro, and if anything, was criminally underrated.

 

we don't have to rewrite history to give current players their due just because they have our logo on the helmet. We can still applaud their success without downplaying or denying history.

Always thought we were lucky to have him but Beason missed too many tackles for me to consider him as highly as Luke.  Saying I thought he was not quite as great as others may have or that he was not going to be in a bunch more Pro Bowls if he hadnt gotten hurt isn't hating on a former player or revisionist history. More of a difference of opinion which is what this threads about.  

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You all are so ready to discredit a PU thread that it's ridiculous. It's a valid question.

If anything it shows how short sighted some are.  Kuechly probably wins this conversation for sure, DROY & DMVP and just all around MONSTER on the field.

But to act like Beason shouldn't even be in this conversation is absurd.  Beason was highly respected around the league as the best MLB in the game (only P. WIllis held a candle to him). And if memory serves me correctly he didn't play with as much talent on Defense, I know for a fact he never played with a Defense like we had 2 years ago with Hardy causing havoc. 

I'd give the nod to Luke I'm sure, but stop discrediting the phenomenal talent and success of Beason.

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So multiple all-pro teams is not HOF level?  And if your talking about raw talent, Willis raw talent is better than almost any LB ever and that includes Luke. He ran a 4.3 which is unheard of at LB.

 

And for those saying Morgan was better? LOL I've been following both since they played in Miami, Morgan is not better than Beason, not even close.

he ran a 4.51

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