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[Nick_81]

2 hours ago, tarheels said:

experience is still better than first time.

Elway finally beat GB and Atlanta with a weaker arm/better run game/better Defense.

history repeats itself just as much in sports as anywhere else.

 Sure,Denver lost super bowls but the fact is they keep going every decade. The teams they lost to were nfc east teams that keep going to championships/playoffs.

who did Clemson lose to after going undefeated? a team that keeps going to Championships.

the Patriots went undefeated...except for that one game. against an organization accustomed to post season play annually every few years.

the truth is the Panthers are the actual underdog here and now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh give me a fuging break with that experience bullshit.  There's enough Super Bowl experience on our team, and in our front office.  What you think the whole roster, and every coach, is fresh out of college?

[Moorgan]

8 hours ago, tarheels said:

question if I may: how old are you? do you not recollect past teams and games?

Carolina is just a team that got the better of weak and injured nfc teams. If the defense is so good,how come it got in shootouts vs Seattle and NY in the season. How could they lose to Atlanta?

Carolina is now missing a starting CB and they beat the Cards who had 3 defensive starters on IR. they scored many points on just a weak ass Cards defense.

Missing a starting CB in the biggest game already puts it in Mannings favor

 

Atlanta in 97/98 went 14-2 and then went on to lose to a Denver team with an aging QB but new and better defense and run game. Just like this year.

the Giants in 2000 beat the crap out of Minn and then went on to lose to Trent Dilfer and the Ravens.

I'm 42. And yes it's possible for the Denver defense to show out historically. But that doesn't take into account the fact that we have the best run game in the NFL AND the highest scoring offense in the NFL. Not to mention a defense that is top 5 with the most takeaways. 

The difference between the 2000 Giants and us is we are a better team. Yes the HoF Manning can still capitalize on mistakes and if we make them he can make us pay. But I don't see it that way. I see us running well and making them pay with turnovers.

Not sure what my age has to do with any of that though.

[uncfan888]

This guy has got to be a Denver fan..  I doubt we'll see him in two weeks after they get steam rolled

[MCCNASTY]

Yall smell that?????  That putrid sour smell?  Looks like we got us a troll!  Hahahaha!!!!!!  Dumbass.    

[MadHatter]

9 hours ago, tarheels said:

being a number one defense means knowing how to prepare no matter what the other teams strength is.

 You really think the team that just beat the Pats who never lose, is worried about a bunch of first time playoff run rookies?

 Manning and the Coach will do everything to make sure Seattle 2.0 doesnt have a chance of happening.

 

2000- Giants shut our Minn. and lost to the trent Dilfer lead Ravens.

 

Pats lost plenty of times this season.

[MadHatter]

2 hours ago, tarheels said:

experience is still better than first time.

Elway finally beat GB and Atlanta with a weaker arm/better run game/better Defense.

history repeats itself just as much in sports as anywhere else.

 Sure,Denver lost super bowls but the fact is they keep going every decade. The teams they lost to were nfc east teams that keep going to championships/playoffs.

who did Clemson lose to after going undefeated? a team that keeps going to Championships.

the Patriots went undefeated...except for that one game. against an organization accustomed to post season play annually every few years.

the truth is the Panthers are the actual underdog here and now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Damn....you REALLY ARE that stupid. 

[PghPanther]

This idea of defense wins championships was more true during the 70s and before when an offense was built around a run game first and passing as an option......the future of elite offenses now are built on a multi-skilled QB with scrambling and/or run ability along with a passing game more so that a committed run game of the era's past............as a result Carolina and Seattle are the best offenses in the NFL hands down.........and to a lessor extent the mobility of the Steelers and Colts offenses........the days of Brady, Manning, Ryan and Palmer type QBs is closing.........

Say what you want but it is the integrity of the Oline that wins all games today in the past and in the future too.....

If your Oline can provide time and holes for your skill players to move the chains.........then you eat up the clock, score points, and keep the other team's offense off the field.............while wearing out the opposing teams defense while keeping your own defense fresh.

All that stated, though the running game is here to stay as Olines love to run block more than pass block as a rule.

Olines are the foundation for winning all games

............now consider our Oline verses Broncos Oline..................I rest my case.

 

[CPantherKing]

8 hours ago, Thorrez said:

And by "running QB" you actually mean "black QB"? Because Bridgewater is about as far from a running qb that it gets. Except of course in the eyes of old white guys...

You point about the Chiefs are valid, they are similar to us running read option and actually have have running qb. So the Broncos have full experience about how to lose to the kind of team that we are. Should really help them. 

And that is not even considering we are a lot better than the Chiefs. 

Not a black/white issue. The Denver Broncos think Phillip Rivers is a running QB too, or at least they made him look like Cam Newton.

This Broncos defense is about as over-hyped as the Cardinals offense. They are good at what they do, but they are not great and have glaring weaknesses no one wants to discuss in the national media.

[DaveThePanther2008]

This guy cannot be in his 50's.  There is no way he would survive that long talk out the wrong orifice.

I honestly don't think he has watched a game all season.  Surely not enough to know anything about who Carolina is.

[Jangler]

Probably just Alice jumping bandwagons again.

[shaqattaq]

12 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

Denver has the best defense the Panthers will have faced this year.

 

Let's be real, and give credit, where credit is due. The Broncos wouldn't even be in the Superbowl if it wasn't for how good their defense is.

 

WITH THAT BEING SAID....

 

 I'm  absolutely positive that our offense can do more against their defense, than their offense can do against our defense.

 

 

CHAMPIONSHIP!!

here's the difference as I see it:

Their defense will slow our offense down (I don't see us getting 49 points), but our defense will absolutely shut their offense down!

Our biggest fear on D is our replacement CBs (who held their own Sunday) getting burned deep, which Manning struggles with. His arm strength on the deep balls just isn't there right now. Manning is too good not to make a few plays, but it won't be nearly enough!

 

[BrownianMotion]

Pats fan here. Rematch of SB38 may have been delayed, but you guys have a good chance of getting there next year, and if we can stay healthy and fix our Oline, maybe we'll have that rematch in SB51.

My thoughts in your match up with Denver:

We were an XP away from taking the game into OT with all of the momentum. Denver had only 6 points in the 2nd half, numerous 3 and outs, and we were getting a ton of pressure on Peyton. Their run game was also nonexistent. Our defense has been very good this year, but I give the edge to Carolina's defense because you guys are the best in the league at taking the ball away from the opposition. I will be shocked if Denver puts up more than 14 points on your defense. Only way their point total is larger than 14 is if they get a ST score or if your offense has a bunch of turnovers.

Offensively, your Oline is far superior to what ours was. Ours played like an Oline that was in contention for worst Oline of all time (or at least in the last decade, as Brady was hit more in that game than any QB since 2006.) Your run game is also probably the best in the league. Not only is your team equipped to have success in the run game vs Denver, but your strong Oline and presence of a run game will also ensure that Cam won't pressured as much as Brady was.

Despite the trash Oline, we were a missed XP or a FG away from winning the game on the road. So the two teams (Denver and NE) are about as evenly matched as you'll see. And as a Pats fan, I can genuinely say that even if we squeaked one out on Sunday, we would very likely have lost to you guys. So I see no reason why you can't win SB50 fairly comfortably. 

Plus, watching Denver getting blown out in the SB every few years is a long standing tradition now. I'm sure your team would love to be part of that tradition. Not to mention that seeing the 'Manning face' in the SB is equally as satisfying. ;)

[rico6]

Peyton gonna die in 2 weeks