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Mr. Scot

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being good year in and year out is the best way to have multiple shots at a super bowl.  in the NFL about the highest thing you can realistically hope for is to have more than one chance.  if people want to do their chest pounding "bah any season that doesn't end in a lombardi is a failure" thing then that's fine but it's not rooted in the reality of pro football.

again, it's not a binary proposition.  it's not "good year to year but never ever win" vs. "win one and then suck for a decade".  i mean if those were the only two options of course everybody would take the second one.

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5 minutes ago, Handsome Steve said:

Yeah, this is basically my view on it. I don't care if we are constantly good if we never win the whole thing.

What happens if you sell out for that one season and then you don't win it.

That happens a lot. And then you wind up with several seasons of garbage and nothing to show for it.

Our GM isn't the type to make panic moves. And his slow, steady approach has given us the best run of success this team has ever seen.

I'll take that over the alternative every time.

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6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

What happens if you sell out for that one season and then you don't win it.

That happens a lot. And then you wind up with several seasons of garbage and nothing to show for it.

Our GM isn't the type to make panic moves. And his slow, steady approach has given us the best run of success this team has ever seen.

I'll take that over the alternative every time.

This is why I don't understand the "wasting prime years of our stars' careers" point that some people toss out... it makes no sense. I'd bet that most players would rather win more than they lose while knowing that they have a genuine shot at the title every year rather than have years truly wasted away a la Cleveland, Miami, etc.

I also don't understand how people think that new players are the ONLY way to improve. If Panther fans should have taken anything away from the past couple of seasons, it's that superior coaches figure out a way to use the talent on their roster to beat their opponents. It takes a certain level of talent to make this truly feasible, but Carolina is above this threshold and it's perfectly reasonable at this point to think that the talent level will continue to trend upward.

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1 hour ago, KSpan said:

This is why I don't understand the "wasting prime years of our stars' careers" point that some people toss out... it makes no sense. I'd bet that most players would rather win more than they lose while knowing that they have a genuine shot at the title every year rather than have years truly wasted away a la Cleveland, Miami, etc.

I also don't understand how people think that new players are the ONLY way to improve. If Panther fans should have taken anything away from the past couple of seasons, it's that superior coaches figure out a way to use the talent on their roster to beat their opponents. It takes a certain level of talent to make this truly feasible, but Carolina is above this threshold and it's perfectly reasonable at this point to think that the talent level will continue to trend upward.

All some folks understand is shiny new toys.

Player development is actually a pretty big deal.

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19 hours ago, Servant of Cthululelei said:

Great post.  Though now I'm terrified because our company of teams that have been to two superbowls but won neither are the Bengals and the Eagles.  Both franchises that I (and many others) laugh at for their choking ways.  Franchises that I would not be at all surprised to never see win a superbowl in my lifetime.

I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.

Look on the bright side. The Broncos lost their first 4 Super Bowls before they broke the streak (with a respectable running game and defense) in '97. The Patriots lost their first 2 ten years apart as well before....never mind.

We'll get there. Be patient.

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19 hours ago, Servant of Cthululelei said:

Great post.  Though now I'm terrified because our company of teams that have been to two superbowls but won neither are the Bengals and the Eagles.  Both franchises that I (and many others) laugh at for their choking ways.  Franchises that I would not be at all surprised to never see win a superbowl in my lifetime.

I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.

Well, the good thing is that several teams have lost their first two (or in some cases more) superbowls and then went on to win some.  New England and Denver both had sb losing streaks before going on to win a few. 

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3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

The problem with that approach is that the only thing guaranteed is years of cap hell afterwards. It doesn't guarantee a Super Bowl win. Teams like the Dolphins, Colts and Saints found out the hard way.

Well it was a hypothetical question where we'd actually win it if we did that approach. If I had to choose, I'd rather go all out and win it and then be in cap hell.

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On ‎3‎/‎17‎/‎2016 at 0:50 PM, Servant of Cthululelei said:

Great post.  Though now I'm terrified because our company of teams that have been to two superbowls but won neither are the Bengals and the Eagles.  Both franchises that I (and many others) laugh at for their choking ways.  Franchises that I would not be at all surprised to never see win a superbowl in my lifetime.

I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.

Just remember, the Patriots lost their first two Super Bowls too...

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23 minutes ago, Jump Zone said:

Just remember, the Patriots lost their first two Super Bowls too...

 

I would expect this version of the Panthers. With the culture and talent that permeates from the top to the bottom. To be in the running for a LOT of SuperB owls.  And I also expect Cam to get his fair share. He ain't happy with how things worked out last year. He will do everything within his powers to make sure it don't happen again next time. Or the time after. Or that time after that.

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