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I have a feeling about Ogbah after the Observer's article


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Color me the happy-go-lucky Pillsbury Dough Boy lost within the fluff of this latest Charlotte Observer piece,  but between Ogbah,  the visit,  and his college positional coach,  Joe Bob Clements,  I believe that if he's there (which is a higher likelihood than some other mollies that have been discussed),  he will be the pick.

 

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“I felt good about the Panthers. They run the same thing I did in college," Ogbah said during a phone conversation. "So it wouldn’t be much of a transition if I went to play for the Panthers."

 

He thinks he's a fit,  and I don't believe it's  just because he has studied tape.  I think it's  because he has been told that by coaches. And I just don't  mean his college positional coach who is also on board with the idea. 

 

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"Clements remembers Rivera being tough, but approachable and fair. Clements believes his former player would be a good pick for the Panthers – from a scheme background and otherwise."

Said Clements: "Emmanuel Ogbah would fit perfect with (Rivera’s) personality if that’s still the way he runs his program."

http://m.wbtv.com/wbtv/db_330726/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=swRQZsJ5

 

Between Ogbah's work ethic,  character, willingness to be coached,  and especially  his gradual improvement that was on full display as his college career came to an end (Remember Getty talking about Kelvin Benjamin?), I have a feeling that his name will be on our card Thursday night. 

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I'd love either Ogbah or Dodd. Ogbah looks more raw imo, but with our coaching staff, I'm sure he'll get up to speed soon. Dodd is one of those one year wonder kind of guys who came out of nowhere. You question whether he'd be able to keep up his success in the NFL. I believe he'd still keep his success up, and be a good asset if picked. 

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9 hours ago, juliosantos said:

dont want him in the first hes way too raw 

I remember a few people saying that about Kony Ealy.

The good thing about Ogbah, is that he will have time to learn and develop.  Of course CJ and Ealy are the presumed starters, but Delaire, Miley, and Cox (who I admittedly forgot about when I first posted this, but not Addison which I explain later) have a certain amount of upside yet to be determined. If G-man picks Ogbah, I don't see how anyone can argue with it, first round or not.

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9 minutes ago, Growl said:

I got the same impression but Zeirlein at NFL.com also said he spoke to a few league guys who apparently have Ogbah pegged as a 2nd or 3rd round guy. Something to note.

This is the silly season for rumors.  Ogbah was a solid if not high first rounder for a long time.  His visits, size, and potential scream BS on the 3rd round rumors especially.

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12 minutes ago, Growl said:

I got the same impression but Zeirlein at NFL.com also said he spoke to a few league guys who apparently have Ogbah pegged as a 2nd or 3rd round guy. Something to note.

Those guys are pry with the browns and lions.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I remember a few people saying that about Kony Ealy.

The good thing about Ogbah, is that he will have time to learn and develop.  Of course CJ and Ealy are the presumed starters, but Delaire and Miley have a certain amount of upside yet to be determined. If G-man picks Ogbah, I don't see how anyone can argue with it, first round or not.

The guy COULD be JPP pre-club.  He has that potential with time and coaching.

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It could be argued we don't have an immediate need anywhere. Even after Norman we have serviceable corners. Could they use an improvement? Yes. Will they be 2014 OT bad? Probably not.

Same could be said about just about any position.

I would be thrilled with Ogbah. Could develop into Greg Hardy on the field without the Grey Hardy off the field drama.

We're 1 pick away from the 2nd round anyway. Not like saying "No thanks 2nd round talent" has much weight here. If he was the 32nd pick it'd be OK but a reach at 30? Eh. If we like him take him.

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