Sorry. Gettlemens Draft This Year Blows

[Cat]

2 minutes ago, Nick_81 said:

So you'd take the LB there, instead of the corner?

I wouldn't alter my philosophy. Gettleman has drafted well the last few years, it concerns me when he alters his philosophy because we are desperate at CB.

[Nick_81]

2 minutes ago, Cat said:

I wouldn't alter my philosophy. Gettleman has drafted well the last few years, it concerns me when he alters his philosophy because we are desperate at CB.

He said they both had 2nd round grades.  One was picked up in the bottom of the 2nd, and one in the middle of the 3rd.  I don't see much of a problem with it.

[Cat]

1 minute ago, Nick_81 said:

He said they both had 2nd round grades.  One was picked up in the bottom of the 2nd, and one in the middle of the 3rd.  I don't see much of a problem with it.

He also said he had to change draft philosophy.

Hopefully all 3 of these CBs end up awesome and we have a had time deciding who to stick with down the road and who gets the cut. 

[Cpt slay a ho]

5 hours ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

OP's post jumped the shark when he called butler a "third string DT" then he broke out a screenshot from NFL.com which i strongly doubt closely aligns with any team's draft board to prove his point

if you want to defend that then be my guest.  critical opinions of gettleman that don't resort to soapboxing like the first post in this topic or rants about how cam is going to leave us and sign with the cowboys because we didn't "surround him with weapons" tend to get taken a little more seriously

this is the most consistent run of success in the team's history.  people are going to defend gettleman's personnel moves, deal with it.

defending dg moves and belittle someone's opinion resulting to insults are two different things, some act as if the op is some noob poster who does this all the time. you personally, have quoted me multiple times without coming of condescending nor throwing insults out, unfortunately a majority of posters don't share that same trait . again on paper a concerning draft mostly due to Dg doing a lot of things he's preach he wouldn't, but ultimately we'll have to wait and see. Me personally i was more excited about the UDFA's we sign then the overall draft in general.

[Cpt slay a ho]

4 hours ago, tiger7_88 said:

Gettleman's done a helluva job making you doubters look like idiots for 3+ years and 4 NFL drafts now.  Nobody on this board has to do it.

This, This sort of thinking is the main issue. You see us "doubters" are actually people concerned about the team, as anyone should be and us "doubters" question one move by our Gm we get thrown into the same category as people who have a track record of doubting dg or posters at one time that stated dg was purposely sabotaging Cam. How has he been proving us "doubters" wrong for years, if this is the first draft we've questioned ????

 

[Nick_81]

38 minutes ago, Cat said:

He also said he had to change draft philosophy.

Hopefully all 3 of these CBs end up awesome and we have a had time deciding who to stick with down the road and who gets the cut. 

True, but he also said he didn't reach.  I guess I'll believe him, unless something happens down the road, and I can't. 

I hope they ball out as well.  That's what sucks about draftees.  No matter when you get them, you never know if they'll be good, or garbage.

[tiger7_88]

3 hours ago, Panthers8969 said:

Is it that hard to communicate with someone before cutting them? This is my only real gripe with gman.

Oh lawd... lol.

[tiger7_88]

1 hour ago, Nick_81 said:

So you'd take the LB there, instead of the corner?

What I understand him saying is if the players are graded equally, he'd pick the LB there if the list was in alphabetical order and the LB's name began with an 'A'.  Because that would put him #1 on the BPA list and that's the most important factor.

:P

[tiger7_88]

40 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

This, This sort of thinking is the main issue. You see us "doubters" are actually people concerned about the team

And to assuage your concern you choose to question the guy whose moves have been mostly reliable since he's been here.

 

42 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

us "doubters" question one move by our Gm

The strawman this early in your post?  Excellllllllllllllllllllllllent. 

 

43 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

How has he been proving us "doubters" wrong for years, if this is the first draft we've questioned ????

Ponder on the bolded/underlined statement for a moment and tell me what possible conclusion you can draw from it.

[CRA]

2 hours ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

i know, i remember that.  hurney rightfully received that kind of hype wrongly or rightly because the franchise was relevant in ways that it hadn't been before over his first handful of years.  i was a big hurney fan until 2009 myself.

i didn't pin things down to a particular time frame when i referred to a "run of success" because i believe the current one is ongoing.  the panthers followed 2005 with two consecutive non-winning non-playoff seasons, a one-and-done playoff loss that's easily on the short list of the worst games in franchise history, an 8-8 non-playoff season, then three straight losing seasons before hurney was finally canned.  i don't even need to mention the awe-inspiring parade of shitshow drafts, trades, and contracts from 2009-2012 because we're all familiar with them.

i think what gives gettleman the edge and what will eventually bring the franchise a title is his scouting experience and the fact that he's been immersed in the actual blood and guts of championship football for decades.  hurney didn't have that kind of background.

i know you didn't bring this up, but i've seen it over and over again as of late, and one of the major criticisms hurled at gettleman (he doesn't have to do anything bc the core was drafted by another guy!) was true of the early hurney years too.  jenkins, smitty, moose, minter, rucker, morgan, and the entire OL outside of gross if i remember correctly were on the team prior to 2002.

I think Ron is a better coach than Fox. 

I think Dave also gets too much credit and Rivera's growth is the biggest reason we are winning.  I still maintain if Riverboat Ron made Riverboat calls early Dave wouldn't even be here because he would have won his first two seasons 

[dugbug]

2 hours ago, CRA said:

I think Ron is a better coach than Fox. 

I think Dave also gets too much credit and Rivera's growth is the biggest reason we are winning.  I still maintain if Riverboat Ron made Riverboat calls early Dave wouldn't even be here because he would have won his first two seasons 

I think we have an amazing gm and a killer players coach.  On their own they were not that successful

[Panthers8969]

7 hours ago, tiger7_88 said:

Oh lawd... lol.

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[Jon Snow]

Gotta disagree with you there Cotton.

[jayflip]

DGJS might be the grossest thing I can think of.