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Teron Armstead (Saints LT) gets 64.5 Mill for his 5 year extension, 38 Mill injury guarantee

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10 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Disagree.  The Giants went "all in" for the next 2 years....knowing that Eli is aging, and if wins don't come soon, they will be rebuilding.

 

I don't even know what you're referring to. 

 

 

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Here's the deal though.. As long as the cap keeps rising, the Saint will continue to get bailed out of cap hell. Of course it's beneficial to keep moving money due to the future when the cap rises. Without knowing, I feel the Panthers have underestimated this effect somewhat when negotiating contracts 

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7 minutes ago, Growl said:

I don't even know what you're referring to. 

 

 

You said:  and you don't see people applying it to other teams with aging QBs

 

I disagree.  The Giants have an aging QB, and they just spent 100M guaranteed on Janoris Jenkins, Olivier Vernon, and Damon Harrison.

 

IMO they are throwing all caution to the wind in search of another deep playoff run.

 

 

 

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34 minutes ago, Growl said:

The post I just made above will likely answer that question in full, but my initial point was that the notion that an NFL team without a franchise QB is obviously likely going to struggle. Its pretty much a rule.

The notion that spending money=bad team is so heavily tethered to one another in your mind it only makes it look like I'm saying two different things.

yeah sorry for not picking up on the nuances of your one-sentence post earlier in this topic

and no the notion that spending money=bad team isn't something that's embedded into my brain.  i basically agree with the notion that loomis just sucks at building a roster which is why the saints have sucked following that approach. 

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1 minute ago, thefuzz said:

You said:  and you don't see people applying it to other teams with aging QBs

 

I disagree.  The Giants have an aging QB, and they just spent 100M guaranteed on Janoris Jenkins, Olivier Vernon, and Damon Harrison.

 

IMO they are throwing all caution to the wind in search of another deep playoff run.

 

 

 

I'm aware of what I said. You insinuated the Giants did something prior to last off season that supposedly suggested they were going "all in" which then prompted me to tell you I had no idea what move you were referring to. 

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4 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

You said:  and you don't see people applying it to other teams with aging QBs

 

I disagree.  The Giants have an aging QB, and they just spent 100M guaranteed on Janoris Jenkins, Olivier Vernon, and Damon Harrison.

 

IMO they are throwing all caution to the wind in search of another deep playoff run.

 

 

 

I think it screams of a team desperate to prove to the world that Eli doesnt suck.

and he does...

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2 minutes ago, Growl said:

I'm aware of what I said. You insinuated the Giants did something prior to last off season that supposedly suggested they were going "all in" which then prompted me to tell you I had no idea what move you were referring to. 

My post says nothing about last year.

Wonder if the Giants went "all in" this year?

Above is what I said.

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Irrespective of the Saints,  I am more interested in the market for LTs.  Cordy Glenn just signed a five year,  $65 mil contract with $36 mil guaranteed. 

If we can ever get Cam some top shelf blindside protection,  then we're gonna have to pay,  and to me that's not necessarily a bad thing. Will there be a day when Oher is demanding that type of bank? Good thing that we have Cam who is more mobile than most.  

We should have made a play for Jared Veldheer when we had a chance.  

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11 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

My post says nothing about last year.

Wonder if the Giants went "all in" this year?

Above is what I said.

Yes but I inferred that you must've been speaking about last season given that new York wasn't good. The free agents you listed for this season are all young players. The notion that they signed them for the sole purpose of "winning this season" is an enormous stretch.

And frankly as long as Eli continues to only play well on even numbered weeks it won't matter what new York does.

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12 minutes ago, Growl said:

I'm aware of what I said. You insinuated the Giants did something prior to last off season that supposedly suggested they were going "all in" which then prompted me to tell you I had no idea what move you were referring to. 

 

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16 minutes ago, Norway said:

Here's the deal though.. As long as the cap keeps rising, the Saint will continue to get bailed out of cap hell. Of course it's beneficial to keep moving money due to the future when the cap rises. Without knowing, I feel the Panthers have underestimated this effect somewhat when negotiating contracts 

Yeah, they are pretty much out of cap jail next year. This is the last year where they are really tight on the cap. Even with this deal and a Brees extension they are looking at being around $20-30M under with only a couple important pending free agents.

Funny thing is, Loomis is doing the same thing Hurney did but Hurney got screwed by a stalling cap and Loomis has been bailed out by a consistently rising one.

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4 minutes ago, Growl said:

Yes but I inferred that you must've been speaking about last season given that new York wasn't good. The free agents you listed for this season all young players. The notion that they signed them for the sole purpose of "winning this season" is an enormous stretch.

And frankly as long as Eli continues to only play well on even numbered weeks it won't matter what new York does.

They overpaid not just for this season, but the next as well....like the next post I made said.

You can choose not to believe that teams go "all in" I do.  

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1 minute ago, thefuzz said:

They overpaid not just for this season, but the next as well....like the next post I made said.

You can choose not to believe that teams go "all in" I do.  

Yeah what punishments do you think Goodell is gonna dole out on them when he finds out they overpaid?

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