Is Gettleman still "the man"?

[Fox007]

Just now, emhoward said:

To be fair, we did plenty of that last year. @Dallas and home vs Atlanta comes to mind, but not so far this year. 

After an all defensive draft we lost to Bradford and Semen...so yea this year is all that matters since we lost in the damn SB...if we had won the SB I wouldn't give 2 fugin shits how this particular season went.

[Carl Spackler]

48 minutes ago, Dick the Butcher said:

This people.  This.  Gman did his job.

...poorly, this offseason. The coaches make the meal, the GM gets the ingredients. The GM threw out a bottle of Mountain Dew to buy two bottles of Dr. Perky. The recipe called for ground beef, the GM brought back beef jerky (oh poo that rhymes)

Don't ask, I don't even know anymore. fug the offensive line.

[CKI]

I can't believe I'm about to defend Shula. But Cam was holding on to ball for dear life today. TV doesn't really give enough angles to see if everybody was covered but some of those sacks/hits could've been prevented.

I can't tell if Cam is holding on too long hoping for the big play or if Shula isn't calling plays that give him an easy release valve. Would be awesome to get some different angles on a few of those sacks


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[emhoward]

5 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

After an all defensive draft we lost to Bradford and Semen...so yea this year is all that matters since we lost in the damn SB...if we had won the SB I wouldn't give 2 fugin shits how this particular season went.

Everyone is losing to Seimen. Dude threw 4 TD'S on the road. Bradford scored 13 offensive points and had just over 200 yds of offense.

[Fox007]

7 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

The problem is that our offense is actually better than our defense, but everything we do is to accommodate our defense. Hence all the slow ball. We just need to air it out and don't worry about giving up points

Can't say I agree with that statement as is....as long as Shula is the OC the offense is at a HUGE negative.

Now our offensive players are better overall than our defense now that Norman and Hardy are gone. I mean....add Hardy last year and him and Norman this year....

Two 6 rounders we drafted and turned into Pro Bowlers just wasted.

[Fox007]

3 minutes ago, emhoward said:

Everyone is losing to Seimen. Dude threw 4 TD'S on the road. Bradford scored 13 offensive points and had just over 200 yds of offense.

Maybe that shows that Gman isn't as good as we think if two teams with those QBs can beat us...

The vikings had literally 5 starters out....imagine if they played...lol

My point was that Gettle was still the man but you're making a damn fine point that he's not.

[AceBoogie]

2 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

Can't say I agree with that statement as is....as long as Shula is the OC the offense is at a HUGE negative.

Now our offensive players are better overall than our defense now that Norman and Hardy are gone. I mean....add Hardy last year and him and Norman this year....

Two 6 rounders we drafted and turned into Pro Bowlers just wasted.

I mean yea that's what I mean, our offensive unit is more talented 

[CPF4LIFE]

Just now, Fox007 said:

Maybe that shows that Gman isn't as good as we think if two teams with those QBs can beat us...

The vikings had literally 5 starters out....imagine if they played...lol

Stop making sense

[CPantherKing]

Just now, carolinajay said:

To be fair to Gettleman, Josh Norman forced his hand. If he wanted to play for the panthers this year he would have signed the tag.

He would have signed the tag. Gettleman rescinded it. It was Gettleman's decision to keep or not to keep Norman here in 2016.

The difference from last year to this year is that the secondary is not capable of bailing out the coaching staff with turnovers like last year. Losing the game changing impact of Norman, Tillman, and Coleman (at FS) with their FF, FR, and INTs is the difference between 3-0 and 1-2.

Bradberry has come close several times, but he has been unable to make those game changing plays.

Those turnovers bailed out the garbage game plans several times last season. Now we have to hope the LBs can double their turn over production from a year ago, or the secondary gets it together and starts making plays. The secondary has 1 game impacting turnover in 3 games. After 3 games last year, the secondary had 4 game impacting turnovers.

The 2015 secondary had 15 INT, 3 TD, 7 FF, and 6 FR.

The 2016 secondary is on pace for 10 INT, 0 TD, 0 FF, and 0 FR.

That has caused a domino effect, which allows the Panthers to play from behind while defenses exploit the OTs and offensive play calling. It also causes the weakness of the DEs to stand out. That secondary needs to get their act together fast and make some plays.

I doubt the LBs, as great as they are, can make up for the loss of production from the secondary while also being the primary pass rushing threat.

[carolinajay]

3 hours ago, Fox007 said:

Maybe that shows that Gman isn't as good as we think if two teams with those QBs can beat us...

The vikings had literally 5 starters out....imagine if they played...lol

My point was that Gettle was still the man but you're making a damn fine point that he's not.

The panthers were the #2 seed with Melvin White & Drayton Florence

the panthers were 1 drive away from winning the super bowl with Ted Ginn as a #1 receiver. It's too early to panic.

Even if the panthers miss the playoffs it doesn't take away the great things Gettleman has done here imo.

[Fox007]

Just now, carolinajay said:

The panthers were the #2 seed with Melvin White & Drayton Florence

the panthers were 1 drive away from winning the super bowl with Ted Ginn as a #1 receiver. It's too early to panic.

Even if the panthers miss the playoffs it doesn't take away the great things Gettleman has done here imo.

No but Shula takes away everything he's done here on offense and to a lesser extent, Rivera does.

 

 

[heel31ok]

44 minutes ago, Lemory said:

He's still great but needs to find some pass rush pretty soon. 

There is no soon with him..

[pantherj]

[Carl Spackler]

17 minutes ago, carolinajay said:

Even if the panthers miss the playoffs it doesn't take away the great things Gettleman has done here imo.

I think it does because he needs to be held to the same standard as Rivera, Cam, etc.