How Gettleman's decision's led us to where we stand now

[TheSpecialJuan]

15 minutes ago, Camvp said:

Gettleman continues to receive too much of the blame.  We have virtually the same roster on the offensive side of the ball (+Benji!) that was the #1 offense yet now execution is so poor we lead the league in turnovers, and are in the top 3 in penalties.  Blaming one person, whether Gettleman or Shula, is too simplistic but appealing to message board reactionary types, but it's certainly much more complicated than that.

Yes. Players are simply not playing up to their capabilities.  If Derek Anderson doesn't throw that pick in the end zone, we win that game.

[Jon Snow]

Has anyone ever considered that maybe, just maybe, that most of the moves you are bitching about may have been just as much Ron's request as Gettlemen doing this shyte in a vacuum?  I'm mean he just doesn't sign guys that Ron doesn't want or signs off on, right?  Or cut them for that matter?  You got to spread the hate equally here.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

36 minutes ago, Bogart said:

Has anyone ever considered that maybe, just maybe, that most of the moves you are bitching about may have been just as much Ron's request as Gettlemen doing this shyte in a vacuum?  I'm mean he just doesn't sign guys that Ron doesn't want or signs off on, right?  Or cut them for that matter?  You got to spread the hate equally here.

yeah and people gloss right over that concept as if there aren't a million examples of faulty depth chart decisions made by ron.  example: the bell/chandler poo could have just as easily been rivera feeding gettleman bad intel as much as it could have been gettleman being a cheap dipshit.  guess which concept gets more play though.

thing is, at least half of the talent evaluation is actually left up to ron and his staff because they're watching them every day in every drill in practice and setting the depth chart.  if dave messes with that too much he's doing ron's job for him.

[Bartin]

1 minute ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

the bell/chandler poo could have just as easily been rivera feeding gettleman bad intel as much as it could have been gettleman being a cheap dipshit.  guess which concept gets more play though.

thing is, a good chunk of talent evaluation is left up to ron otherwise dave might as well do a major part of his job for him which is pointless

Dave attends every practice and every minicamp

[pantherj]

The talent level is this team is too low. When the talent level dips too low, you have a losing season. We're on our way to a losing season.

There are several factors involved with our dip in talent. For one thing, we're suffering from OT/DE starvation due to not having high 1st round picks for a long time. You get your top OTs and DEs from the draft mostly. The result is poor pass blocking, and poor pass rush. Gettleman selected Kony Ealy, and loaded up at DT to improve the pass rush. His plan failed. Gettleman brought in Oher and Remmers, and had mixed results.

Having a draft strategy of taking the bpa means that you have to use FA to fill needs not met by the draft. You can't leave black holes of incompetence at starting positions and expect to win. These massive holes will be exploited, and this could lead to a losing season. When you draft bpa and you underbid, or don't bid at all, on free agents needed to fill holes, you put your team in peril. What's more is that the FA market isn't full of bargains and diamonds in the rough. If you want a high quality FA, then you need to offer market value, or even higher to fill that hole.

Why draft so many CBs? Roster churn is hard work, and when you churn too much of your roster is tiring. One lazy way to limit the churn is to take a position that you've been churning with FAs, and throw a rookie in there. Now you've 4 years of not churning that position. CB1 and CB2 are now filled with rookies, rather than a guy like Peanut who would need to be replaced very soon. The burden now falls on the coaches, and the fans suffer. 

What will happen next? Assuming we have a bad season I think we'll draft a DE and RT. That would do wonders assuming they panned out. Until then it's going to be rough.

 

 

 

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

2 minutes ago, Bartin said:

Dave attends every practice and every minicamp

that doesn't contradict the point i'm making at all

ron sets the depth chart, ron and dave build the roster collaboratively, and it seems like a lot of people (not you necessarily) don't consider that

[GoobyPls]

We should of drafted Sammy Coates or Steffens Diggs a instead of Funchess

 

[Toolbox]

Just now, GoobyPls said:

We should of drafted Sammy Coates or Steffens Diggs a instead of Funchess

 

Really??? funchess isn't being given a fair shake on here.. damn.

[GoobyPls]

8 minutes ago, Toolbox said:

Really??? funchess isn't being given a fair shake on here.. damn.

Funchess wasn't even good at Michigan. Plus having two big lumbering receivers makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Coates and Diggs would if complimented  Kelvin 1000 times better 

[Cpt slay a ho]

DG bets on himself way too much, absolutely no back-up plan for players leaving or retiring, and he doesn't have a very professional demeanor. Not a big fan of him due to the constant mishandling of the team after a winning season.