Fowler article on Bradberry

[dardarroarroar]

Honestly could have gone without that, but okay.

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[LinvilleGorge]

14 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

So, you would think about putting the Panthers future on Bradberry versus any of the match ups in the NFC South?

It is going to be a while for the Panthers to win again in the NFC South with Bradberry and Ealy anchoring the pass defense.

I like how you added a nickel CB to try to deflect the weight of the pass defense the #1 CB is suppose to carry for an NFL defense. The best CB on the team needs to be more than just 20% or less of the production from the secondary.

Your argument at best pushes for Bradberry to be the #2 CB with a solid at best contribution to the defense.

When it comes down to the 4th quarter and the Panthers needing to hold a lead to win a game, I do not have much faith in Bradberry changing the game or stopping a 1st down.

Ealy and Bradberry aren't the anchors of our defense. That's comical. Kuechly, TD, Short, and Star are the anchors of our defense. We need to find that anchor in the secondary. Maybe Bradberry can be that guy.

We don't have a #1 CB. Ever. Not even when Norman was here. We run a zone scheme where a guy plays his side of the field. A #1 CB is a guy who follows the other team's best WR wherever he goes. That's not our scheme.

Maybe that will change under Wilks and we'll see guys move around more in the secondary. I doubt it, but we'll see.

Bradberry was a legit starting caliber CB as a rookie and was the least of our concerns in the secondary.

[CPantherKing]

46 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Kuechly, TD, Short, and Star are the anchors of our defense.

I know you do not believe these 4 players are the anchors of the PASS defense. They are the anchors of the run defense.

When your LBs and DTs have to be the anchor of the pass defense, then you have some serious problems.

So, who anchors the pass defense? I can tell you that Allen, Tillman, Norman, and Harper were the anchors of the 2015 defense. No one stepped up to anchor the 2016 PASS defense. A lot of pressure was put on Coleman and Ealy, but neither were up for that challenge.

[LinvilleGorge]

As long as Gettleman and Rivera are here, the anchors of our D will likely be the front seven. That's just the way they see the game. Maybe now that Wilks is DC that may change, but I doubt it.

Bradberry and Coleman need to be the leaders of the secondary. We need to put Coleman back in the FS role where he thrived and find a SS.

There is no pass defense or run defense, there's just defense. You have to be able to do both. Bradberry is a very promising young CB and Coleman is a guy who's shown he can play at a high level at FS in our D. The rest of the guys in our secondary? Yeah, I don't know about those guys.

I don't disagree with you in considering our secondary a problem, I just strongly disagree with you singling out the one young, promising piece that we have and labeling him as the problem.

[top dawg]

5 hours ago, CPantherKing said:

Matt Ryan, Julio Jones, Drew Brees, Brandin Cooks, Jameis Winston, and Mike Evans disagree with you, but I guess that does not matter.

1-5 in the division with the major reason they became the worst in the NFC South had everything to do with the secondary, and Bradberry does not get a pass for being a rookie. If he needed that pass, then he should have never started as a rookie.

When you can guarantee me that those 6 players will fear Bradberry, and Bradberry will dominate/change games with those match-ups, then get back to me. Until then the Panthers are in trouble when it comes to winning game in the NFC South.

That is what I want fixed now since SB contender is now a distant memory thanks to the 2016 off season. The current DB and DE situation will not fix that problem.

Bullshit! You could see the impact that Bradberry made when he was hurt and out vs. when he returned. Those QBs and WRs didn't have nearly the success rate when on his side of the field. Bradberry's success rate was on par with Norman's this year, and that's without the experience. Not to say that he is better than Norman now, because he's not---mainly due to experience, but you can easily see where he can be within a season or two.

[csx]

CPantherKing, who should this team draft with the first pick this year? I want you to say it beforehand so you can't just talk shot about the playear if Gettleman selects him.

[uncfan888]

6 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Bradberry makes up 20% of our secondary since we're in the nickel the majority of the time. He was our best CB all year long. He played well. Worley was the hottest trash imaginable early in the season, but played decently late. I still wouldn't be opposed to upgrading that spot this off season. But Bradberry? We got a player in that kid.

You will never convince him otherwise. He hates Bradberry because Gettleman drafted him and refused to accept fact.  Let him live in his delusion..  It's fun for the rest of us

[electro's horse]

12 hours ago, sanjay_rajput said:

Bradberry has good insticts like Norman, but he was gifted with better talent.

-longer body frame

-Fast-Twitch Muscle

-faster short area & top end speed

What in the hot gay fug are you talking about?

you trying to tell me you know his muscle comp?

god damn son take a physiology class you dumbass

[Kakarot]

Let me get this out the way: I was very impressed with Bradberry. I feel he's the real deal.

Now that I've got that out the way; there was no need to take a passive aggressive, slight shot at Norman. I get it. Y'all don't like loud, boisterous men. 

[uncfan888]

17 minutes ago, Kakarot said:

Let me get this out the way: I was very impressed with Bradberry. I feel he's the real deal.

Now that I've got that out the way; there was no need to take a passive aggressive, slight shot at Norman. I get it. Y'all don't like loud, boisterous men. 

I just reread this thread...  Who took a passive aggressive shot at norman? 

[run1stdownrun2nddown]

You know that saying "You can tell someone is intelligent if they know what they don't know"

 

Yea... I don't think CPK falls into that category.

[hepcat]

Bradberry looked good late in the season against Julio Jones and Mike Evans. He's already better than where Josh Norman was at the end of his rookie year. I think he'll continue to improve and be a shutdown corner but time will tell. 

[Kakarot]

17 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

I just reread this thread...  Who took a passive aggressive shot at norman? 

"Maybe it's because of coach "ibility" or attitude..." 

 

[electro's horse]

34 minutes ago, Kakarot said:

"Maybe it's because of coach "ibility" or attitude..." 

 

In honor of mlk, here are thinly veiled ways to say "he's black"