Soliai released

[TheSpecialJuan]

12 minutes ago, luke262 said:

Can anyone remember any impact he had? Love is certainly the better play for much less of a price

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None. $3 million for 8 tackles. seemed like a great fit when we signed him but unfortunately, he was done.

[TheRed]

What a f*cking piss poor offseason last year was. Like we might be talking all time worst in our history.

Funny the people praising this move most likely praised picking him up last year.

We better be learning from our mistakes, and that starts with Gettleman keeping his head out of his own ass.

[Krovvy]

Absolute bust of a signing. Hopefully Dickson is released next.

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, TheRed said:

What a f*cking piss poor offseason last year was. Like we might be talking all time worst in our history.

Funny the people praising this move most likely praised picking him up last year.

We better be learning from our mistakes, and that starts with Gettleman keeping his head out of his own ass.

Was last offseason bad? Clearly.

Worst in history? Not even close.

That award goes to the 2010 offseason. Not only was that the year of the veteran purge when favorites like Brad Hoover and Julius Peppers left the building, but we had an abysmal draft (Jimmy Clausen, Armanti Edwards, Eric Norwood, Tony Pike and others) and free agency wasn't exactly a bonanza either (Aaron Francisco, anybody?)

Then you also have to factor in all the drama regarding John Fox looking for an extension the team thought he didn't deserve. And then that leading to Fox and his staff half-assing their coaching, all resulting in the second worst record in team history.

This offseason may have been bad, but it doesn't hold a candle to that nightmare.

[csx]

Worst in the history of the world! Ever!

[TheRed]

6 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Was last offseason bad? Clearly.

Worst in history? Not even close.

That award goes to the 2010 offseason. Not only was that the year of the veteran purge when favorites like Brad Hoover and Julius Peppers left the building, but we had an abysmal draft (Jimmy Clausen, Armanti Edwards, Eric Norwood, Tony Pike and others) and free agency wasn't exactly a bonanza either (Aaron Francisco, anybody?)

Then you also have to factor in all the drama regarding John Fox looking for an extension the team thought he didn't deserve. And then that leading to Fox and his staff half-assing their coaching, all resulting in the second worst record in team history.

This offseason may have been bad, but it doesn't hold a candle to that nightmare.

Coming off a Super Bowl loss so close we could taste it?

To be so nonchalant about improving our team while the rest of the NFL progressed is unforgivable. 

Yeah it was one of our worst offseasons in history considering the ramifications. It isn't even disputable.

[Devil Doc]

6 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Was last offseason bad? Clearly.

Worst in history? Not even close.

That award goes to the 2010 offseason. Not only was that the year of the veteran purge when favorites like Brad Hoover and Julius Peppers left the building, but we had an abysmal draft (Jimmy Clausen, Armanti Edwards, Eric Norwood, Tony Pike and others) and free agency wasn't exactly a bonanza either (Aaron Francisco, anybody?)

Then you also have to factor in all the drama regarding John Fox looking for an extension the team thought he didn't deserve. And then that leading to Fox and his staff half-assing their coaching, all resulting in the second worst record in team history.

This offseason may have been bad, but it doesn't hold a candle to that nightmare.

Tony Pike and David Gettis had potential dangit!!

[Mr. Scot]

25 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Coming off a Super Bowl loss so close we could taste it?

To be so nonchalant about improving our team while the rest of the NFL progressed is unforgivable. 

Yeah it was one of our worst offseasons in history considering the ramifications. It isn't even disputable.

Our record after the prior Super Bowl was only one win better. And we've had other offseasons that resulted in records worse than 6-10 and situations worse than this one.

Throw in that this offseason netted us some promising draft picks that can contribute in the future whereas prior seasons saw nearly entire drafts wasted and literally no one signed in free agency.

Calling last offseason the worst in history is an emotional, prisoner of the moment statement.  If you take an objective look back, we've had several that were worse, some far worse.

[KSpan]

45 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Coming off a Super Bowl loss so close we could taste it?

To be so nonchalant about improving our team while the rest of the NFL progressed is unforgivable. 

Yeah it was one of our worst offseasons in history considering the ramifications. It isn't even disputable.

The team lost 5 games by 3 points or less and that's suffering through some major injury woes. With some better luck - and the 2015 team benefited from some MAJORLY good luck - the season turns out much differently, even after your "worst offseason in Carolina history". 

[TheRed]

14 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Our record after the prior Super Bowl was only one win better. And we've had other offseasons that resulted in records worse than 6-10 and situations worse than this one.

Throw in that this offseason netted us some promising draft picks that can contribute in the future whereas prior seasons saw nearly entire drafts wasted and literally no one signed in free agency.

Calling last offseason the worst in history is an emotional, prisoner of the moment statement.  If you take an objective look back, we've had several that were worse, some far worse.

You've been an apologist for mediocrity going back to when Hurney was in charge.

If that's your approach, fine, but everyone ele doesn't have to keep trying to force a square peg in a round hole. It's a mindset that has netted us zero back to back winning seasons.

[Saca312]

1 minute ago, TheRed said:

You've been an apologist for mediocrity going back to when Hurney was in charge.

If that's your approach, fine, but everyone ele doesn't have to keep trying to force a square peg in a round hole. It's a mindset that has netted us zero back to back winning seasons.

Your approach has been to take a pessimistic role in which you exaggerate the negatives to support a narrative.

Yet when countered with actual facts, your approach is to rebound with the "mediocrity" approach many like you use as if it contains substance. You disregard the fact we've had multiple, many horrible off-seasons that make last off-season look amazing.

I will agree last off-season was Gettleman's worse in his tenure here, but don't go crowning it the worst off-season ever when history argues otherwise.

[TheRed]

3 minutes ago, KSpan said:

The team lost 5 games by 3 points or less and that's suffering through some major injury woes. With some better luck - and the 2015 team benefited from some MAJORLY good luck - the season turns out much differently, even after your "worst offseason in Carolina history". 

Many of those close losses were a direct result of our kicker we decided to make near top paid in the league last offseason shanking kicks like Ray Finkle.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, TheRed said:

You've been an apologist for mediocrity going back to when Hurney was in charge.

If that's your approach, fine, but everyone ele doesn't have to keep trying to force a square peg in a round hole. It's a mindset that has netted us zero back to back winning seasons.

I'm an apologist for realism.

There's a load of emotional judgment going on in most discussion about last year when reality is that even with last year and 2014 figured in, these past few years have been the most successful in Panthers history and we're still well positioned for things to get even better.

Mind you, I'm not happy there weren't more changed to the coaching staff, but we go into this year with a high pick in every round and more cap space than we've had in who knows how long.

What reason is there not to be optimistic?

[TheRed]

1 minute ago, Saca312 said:

Your approach has been to take a pessimistic role in which you exaggerate the negatives to support a narrative.

Yet when countered with actual facts, your approach is to rebound with the "mediocrity" approach many like you use as if it contains substance. You disregard the fact we've had multiple, many horrible off-seasons that make last off-season look amazing.

I will agree last off-season was Gettleman's worse in his tenure here, but don't go crowning it the worst off-season ever when history argues otherwise.

That's my opinion, if you don't like it, too bad.

People around here love to play the underdog/disrespect/us against the league mindset up, but when it comes to evaluating our FO, many fans get borderline stockholm syndrome. It isn't funny anymore. If you aren't getting better, you're getting worse. We got much worse last year, largely due to just plain flat out incompetence by our FO/staff.