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The Next Time A Falcon's Fan Tells You Cam's No Man...

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4 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Not in my opinion. I work in the veterinary field. He can die in a fire.

If somebody grows up around people involved in dogfighting and sees it a lot and is never ever told that it's wrong how the hell is he supposed to learn that? Vick was financing it, and a little bit involved but is hardly what people make him out to be. He's done way more to help animals since getting out of prison than he did to hurt them in the first place. I hated him as a Falcon and hated what he did but the man served his time in prison and has done a ton of good since then, and clearly learned and changed as a result. Not sure what more you could ask of anybody in his situation. You working in the veterinary field is 100% irrelevant.

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24 minutes ago, thomas96 said:

If somebody grows up around people involved in dogfighting and sees it a lot and is never ever told that it's wrong how the hell is he supposed to learn that? Vick was financing it, and a little bit involved but is hardly what people make him out to be. He's done way more to help animals since getting out of prison than he did to hurt them in the first place. I hated him as a Falcon and hated what he did but the man served his time in prison and has done a ton of good since then, and clearly learned and changed as a result. Not sure what more you could ask of anybody in his situation. You working in the veterinary field is 100% irrelevant.

If you can't see why someone who works in the veterinary field might possibly feel differently, then you might be socially retarded.

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42 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If you can't see why someone who works in the veterinary field might possibly feel differently, then you might be socially retarded.

Of course I can see why they might feel differently, but they shouldn't, which is my point. One's profession should not be relevant at all to viewing a situation objectively. You clearly can't do that. 

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13 hours ago, Brownmike said:

That's cool, you stick with the QB who ran from a fumble with the SB on the line and just had the worst season of his pro career and who is inferior to Meg Ryan by any metric you want to use.

And trashing a rivals QB is silly when you do it and then turn right around and defend your team's inferior QB.

Newton running from the fumble shows who he is when the chips are down.  As did his pouting after the SB loss.  He was all smiles and taunts when winning....then he got his ass handed to him and suddenly he wants to pout.

Not a guy I'd want as my team's QB.

 

 

 

None of that makes sense.  You got anything else other than the fumble thing?  I mean, it's a good dig and all but cmon, anything else?  Like, at all?

i get the sense you want me to run pull stats and craft an argument while you prepare to just say fumble no matter what.

i think there is a term for that behavior.  Troll.

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11 hours ago, Brownmike said:

 

I'm not trying to "win".  The fact is Cam quit with the SB on the line.  I simply stated a fact.

You're not stating a fact you're stating your opinion.

Fact: Cam did not dive for the ball

Opinion: Cam did not dive for the ball because he quit on his team, fans etc...

 

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9 hours ago, thomas96 said:

Of course I can see why they might feel differently, but they shouldn't, which is my point. One's profession should not be relevant at all to viewing a situation objectively. You clearly can't do that. 

I can understand why you would feel he's served his sentence and deserves a second chance and I can respect that.

You can't. You say you can, but then immediately turn around and tell someone how they SHOULD feel. I was unaware that you were the moral authority of the universe. Your statements show a clear lack of understanding and empathy. Hence, my claim of your social retardation.

You can feel however you want and that's fine by me, to you should really check yourself before telling others how they should feel and how what they commit their life's work to is irrelevant in terms of their viewpoints on certain subjects. Pediatricians are likely to be more sensitive to children's issues. Climatologists are likely to be more sensitive on subjects relating to climate change. Those in vet field are likely to be more sensitive to issues relating to animals.

 

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4 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I can understand why you would feel he's served his sentence and deserves a second chance and I can respect that.

You can't. You say you can, but then immediately turn around and tell someone how they SHOULD feel. I was unaware that you were the moral authority of the universe. Your statements show a clear lack of understanding and empathy. Hence, my claim of your social retardation.

You can feel however you want and that's fine by me, to you should really check yourself before telling others how they should feel and how what they commit their life's work to is irrelevant in terms of their viewpoints on certain subjects. Pediatricians are likely to be more sensitive to children's issues. Climatologists are likely to be more sensitive on subjects relating to climate change. Those in vet field are likely to be more sensitive to issues relating to animals.

 

Never did I say your opinion is wrong or not moral, I was just expressing mine and asking questions to further understand your view. One's feelings are what they are, their profession doesn't define how they feel about things. You saying you're a veterinarian in this instance was a way for you to make it seem like your opinion on the matter was somehow more important than mine or others. I can tell you right now that I care as much about dogs as anyone. Just because I'm not in that field doesn't mean I don't. 

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6 minutes ago, thomas96 said:

Never did I say your opinion is wrong or not moral, I was just expressing mine and asking questions to further understand your view. One's feelings are what they are, their profession doesn't define how they feel about things. You saying you're a veterinarian in this instance was a way for you to make it seem like your opinion on the matter was somehow more important than mine or others. I can tell you right now that I care as much about dogs as anyone. Just because I'm not in that field doesn't mean I don't. 

Except by telling me how I should feel you inessense were telling me that I was wrong.

And no, my comment on my career was not to make my opinion seem as if it mattered more, it was to give some background as to why I feel the way I do.

If you don't think that one's career can help shape one's viewpoints, then I don't know what to tell you.

I will say that in my opinion you're just being stubborn here. I've sai that I understand and respect why you feel the way you do with no qualifiers. You claim the same, then proceed to continue to argue why I should feel differently and why my career path shouldn't have any impact on my viewpoints. That makes no sense to me and I don't know why you keep arguing it. If you truly respected the way I felt you'd just drop that.

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9 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Except by telling me how I should feel you inessense were telling me that I was wrong.

And no, my comment on my career was not to make my opinion seem as if it mattered more, it was to give some background as to why I feel the way I do.

If you don't think that one's career can help shape one's viewpoints, then I don't know what to tell you.

I will say that in my opinion you're just being stubborn here. I've sai that I understand and respect why you feel the way you do with no qualifiers. You claim the same, then proceed to continue to argue why I should feel differently and why my career path shouldn't have any impact on my viewpoints. That makes no sense to me and I don't know why you keep arguing it. If you truly respected the way I felt you'd just drop that.

Think we're both getting caught up in a small thing here. People's viewpoints are shaped by everything in their life. I was just saying you can provide your viewpoint without saying what your profession is, because that's not relevant to me. Only the viewpoint. You saying you're a vet came across to me as you thinking your thoughts on Vick were somehow more important than others. I understand that wasn't your intention but can you not understand how it could come across that way to some?

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On 2/23/2017 at 8:43 PM, MtnJax said:

Cam never murdered dogs or made them fight

 

On 2/23/2017 at 8:43 PM, MtnJax said:

Cam never murdered dogs or made them fight

 

On 2/23/2017 at 8:43 PM, MtnJax said:

Cam never murdered dogs or made them fight

Lay off Vick he off limits..

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On ‎2‎/‎25‎/‎2017 at 8:37 PM, Brownmike said:

 

When has Cam Newton been relevant outside of 2015?  He broke the rookie record on a terrible team then it was broke the very next season by Andrew Luck.

Hes had two winning seasons in his six seasons.  Only 3 playoff wins and one of those came against a Cardinals team that was down to their 4th string QB. The only reason the Panthers even made the playoffs that season is because their division was so terrible 7 wins won it.  Even still I think Cam only went 5-8-1 as a starter that year.

Ryan has been a better QB, it's not even debatable.

Guy, no matter what you say over here, it's all made irrelevant by one simple fact.......and I'm going to break it down for you real simple like, m'kay?

25 point lead BLOWN, within 1.5 quarters of football in the SB!!!

 

All of your arguments are invalid and pointless.

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