Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Compensatory Picks Announced


AndrewLaskoski

Recommended Posts

2 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

The guy at overthecap.com does a pretty good job of forecasting them considering he is basically reverse engineering the formula.  Here is what he said after the fact:

https://overthecap.com/evaluation-2017-compensatory-picks-projection/#more-13165

He also has a cancellation chart that sheds some light on why the picks were assigned like they were.

The declining of options definitely can be confusing.  Seems some teams are using options as a way to cut a player so that it doesn't count as a release but instead the contract expiring and the team therefore receives compensatory pick consideration for said players.  Here is an article that talks about it.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/02/13/some-teams-are-using-option-years-to-enhance-compensatory-draft-picks/

Funny (kinda, or not), GMan himself said he didn't understand the comp pick formula.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

21 hours ago, Mojo said:

The stage is set.  No reason we can't seriously improve the roster top to bottom and be right back in the thick of it.  This needs to be Gettleman's best offseason yet.  

Agree. After 4 years he has finally purged himself of previously inherited players (JStew being the exception) and their bloated contracts are now off the books. He's drafted/acquired the majority of the players on the current roster. And the one's he didn't acquire (Olsen, Kalil, Cam) he's decided to sign long term.

This is now truly his vision of what the roster should be.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On February 24, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Ivan The Awesome said:

This is definitely the year to have high comp picks. 

lots of great prospects in the 2nd-3rd rounds (haven't looked so much in the 4th but players will fall too). I don't get this into the draft eery year, but certainly seems like one of the deepest in recent years. Hopefully DG shows us some more of the Gettlemagic!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

21 hours ago, Nails said:

Funny (kinda, or not), GMan himself said he didn't understand the comp pick formula.

You're that easy to fool yea?

I definitely believe Hurney had no damn idea but there are plenty of GMs out there who obviously know how to work the system as they consistently get good comp picks....you believe this to honestly be random?

Like any GM or personnel of any type is going to come out and say poo like "Yea we're really working those stupid NFL guys over lulz...if only they knew that we knew eh buddies eh"

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Everything I keep reading in regards to the 9ers QB situation has me thinking they wouldn't trade away Staley as easily as we're hoping.

If they traded for Cousins or Jimmy G, I can't see them then turning around and trading away their blind side.

If they go stop gap with Cutler or Schaub, those guys might not last a full season as it is. Can't imagine their line with no Staley.

If they take a QB high and go young, this is probably the only way they'd trade him. But they'd need to make sure they drafted a solid LT to replace him so their new franchise Qb isnt killed a la David Carr style. Outside Wisconsin's LT (can't spell his name for $hit) or Cam Robinson, how deep is this LT class? Obviously deeper than 2 players, but is it worth the risk for a team with plenty of cap room??

Just saying I don't know if it's still as easy to convince SF as it was with the old regime. I could be totally wrong tho. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 minutes ago, Reebis21 said:

Everything I keep reading in regards to the 9ers QB situation has me thinking they wouldn't trade away Staley as easily as we're hoping.

If they traded for Cousins or Jimmy G, I can't see them then turning around and trading away their blind side.

If they go stop gap with Cutler or Schaub, those guys might not last a full season as it is. Can't imagine their line with no Staley.

If they take a QB high and go young, this is probably the only way they'd trade him. But they'd need to make sure they drafted a solid LT to replace him so their new franchise Qb isnt killed a la David Carr style. Outside Wisconsin's LT (can't spell his name for $hit) or Cam Robinson, how deep is this LT class? Obviously deeper than 2 players, but is it worth the risk for a team with plenty of cap room??

Just saying I don't know if it's still as easy to convince SF as it was with the old regime. I could be totally wrong tho. 

That's why it may take a 2nd round pick (although I still demand a day 3 pick back as well).  Also why it pays to be picking higher than the Vikings, Giants, Broncos, and Seahawks, etc. in every round.

Staley missed games last year too with a hamstring so it's not like even he is 1,000% foolproof.  But why wouldn't the hopeless 49ers take a day 2 pick when they themselves could then sign a guy like Clady to stopgap their hopeless selves for far less?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, the 49ers seem primed to go for a shiny new QB, whether it's through FA or the draft. I think it'd be pretty hard to pry away their elite starting LT.

They, themselves, at this point in their franchise, will never get value out of him = what the 40 overall pick in 2017 would give them.  If they're that stupid to not see that and demand more then screw them, and we go with one of the other options, while kicking their @ss for the next 5-10 years as the doormats they have become.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The Falcons were a 4-12 team just a couple seasons ago. Things can change very quickly in the NFL. Just because the 49ers are trash now doesn't necessarily mean they will be in a couple of seasons. If they can get a good QB they could get things turned around very quickly, but they need to protect that QB... a lesson the Panthers evidently are still struggling to grasp.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

21 minutes ago, Reebis21 said:

Everything I keep reading in regards to the 9ers QB situation has me thinking they wouldn't trade away Staley as easily as we're hoping.

If they traded for Cousins or Jimmy G, I can't see them then turning around and trading away their blind side.

If they go stop gap with Cutler or Schaub, those guys might not last a full season as it is. Can't imagine their line with no Staley.

If they take a QB high and go young, this is probably the only way they'd trade him. But they'd need to make sure they drafted a solid LT to replace him so their new franchise Qb isnt killed a la David Carr style. Outside Wisconsin's LT (can't spell his name for $hit) or Cam Robinson, how deep is this LT class? Obviously deeper than 2 players, but is it worth the risk for a team with plenty of cap room??

Just saying I don't know if it's still as easy to convince SF as it was with the old regime. I could be totally wrong tho. 

totally agree.  Especially if they go with a rookie QB it is hard to quantify how much a quality LT is worth. 

Even if they were willing to take a 3rd for him, how many other teams would be willing to do that?  I would guess a good many.  At that point the 3rd might not be enough.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The Falcons were a 4-12 team just a couple seasons ago. Things can change very quickly in the NFL. Just because the 49ers are trash now doesn't necessarily mean they will be in a couple of seasons. If they can get a good QB they could get things turned around very quickly, but they need to protect that QB... a lesson the Panthers evidently are still struggling to grasp.

Look at how quickly Dallas turned it around.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

12 minutes ago, cookinbrak said:

Look at how quickly Dallas turned it around.

Bad example.  Dallas was a division winner and a controversial play from the NFCCG in 2014-2015.

The 49ers have experienced a literal historic gutting of their roster and front office since 2013-2014.  Staley doesn't deserve it, and it WON'T be turned around overnight.  They could use all the high draft picks they could get.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

58 minutes ago, Leeroy Jenkins PhD said:

Enjoy this one guys. I have a feeling we won't be getting a comp pick next year.  Too many holes to fill in FA. 

 

Fine with me. I want to put the best possible team on the field that we can. To hell with handicapping yourself in the meantime with the hope of benefiting down the road in the way of a comp pick. Just focus on building the best roster that you can and let the comp picks come when they do.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • A lot of people in the community seem to think Carolina will go pure BPA at 19, but I don’t really see it that way. I do think this front office has put itself in a good position after free agency. They’ve been aggressive, they’ve improved the roster, and they’ve taken away the pressure of having to force one specific position. That part is true. But that still doesn’t mean this will be a true best player available approach. There are still spots on this roster that clearly need more help than others, and I think those positions will naturally narrow the board. The good news is that because the team improved multiple areas, they now have enough flexibility that their pick can still look like BPA. It just won’t be BPA in the purest sense. It’ll be more like BPA within a cluster of positions still in play. With pick 19, the odds are pretty high that a player at one of those positions will match both value and need. Here’s how I see the roster right now. Offense QB — Bryce Young X RB — Chuba Hubbard X Chuba is productive, Jonathon Brooks should return from injury, and Trevor Etienne gives them another option. Running back is not a draft priority. WR — Tetairoa McMillan X WR — Jalen Coker X WR — Xavier Legette In play He’s still young and worth developing, so I wouldn’t call this a major need. But if a high-end receiver unexpectedly falls, we could absolutely pull the trigger. TE — Ja’Tavion Sanders Very much in play We don’t really have a true TE1. We haven’t had one since Greg Olsen. Kenyon Sadiq would make a lot of sense if the board falls that way. LT — Rasheed Walker X Between Ekwonu and Rasheed Walker, tackle doesn’t feel like something they’d attack early. LG — Damien Lewis X C — Luke Fortner X Not a priority compared to other needs. RG — Robert Hunt X RT — Taylor Moton X Defense LDE — Derrick Brown X NT — Bobby Brown III In play He’s a nose tackle who doesn’t particularly stop the run that well. An upgrade could definitely be in play within the first 2–3 rounds. RDE — Tershawn Wharton In play He struggled last season. On a Super Bowl contender, he would ideally be more of a rotational piece. Defensive interior overall still feels like a unit that could be improved. Our #2 DI last season was A’Shawn Robinson by a mile, and we lost him. WLB — Nic Scourton X LILB — Devin Lloyd X RILB — Trevin Wallace In play Wallace has flaws in his game. Slightly below-average LB right now, but he could still develop into a solid depth piece. I wouldn’t rule out linebacker within the first two rounds. In the first round though, the only realistic option without reaching would be Sonny Styles if he somehow falls to the 10–13 range and we trade up. CJ Allen and Anthony Hill Jr. should not be considered at 19. SLB — Jaelan Phillips X LCB — Mike Jackson X Mike Jack should now be viewed as a pillar of this defense. SS — Tre’von Moehrig X FS — Lathan Ransom Very much in play Free safety is one of the most realistic upgrade spots on the roster. Lathan Ransom profiles more like a strong safety than a true free safety. RCB — Jaycee Horn X NB — Chau Smith-Wade In play Nickel could definitely be addressed early. Adding a true difference-maker in the slot (or another CB and moving Jaycee inside more often) would make this secondary much stronger. Final Take — TLDR This is why I don’t think Carolina will follow a true BPA approach. They’ve improved enough in free agency that they aren’t forced into one desperate need anymore, which is exactly where you want to be going into the draft. But the roster still has a few spots that clearly stand out more than others. Because of that, I think the Panthers will draft using a multi-position BPA approach, not a full-roster BPA board. Most realistic early targets in my opinion Tight end Defensive interior Free safety Linebacker Nickel corner with wide receiver as the possible wildcard if someone unexpectedly falls. At pick 19, that’s exactly the type of situation where value and need are most likely to meet. Realistic Picks at 19 Kenyon Sadiq Caleb Banks / Peter Woods Dillon Thieneman Sonny Styles (via trade up if he falls) Jermod McCoy / Avieon Terrel Jordyn Tyson
    • Looks like Wemby is OUT today.  Same with Dylan Harper. Also looks like both Coby and Kalk will play today. We NEED to win this one.
    • We won't know much about Icky's recovery until around January, and then he has a very slim chance of being 100%. I wonder why we only signed Walker for a year? Even if Icky someone gets back to NFL starter level in 2027, we still need another tackle on this roster. 
×
×
  • Create New...