The three players selected right after Ealy

[panther4life]

Some of you have a bad memory or are way too sensitive to any criticism of Gettleman.

Our DE depth chart was CJ,Hardy, Alexander,Addison and Horton before the draft. 

WR's were Cotchery,Avant,Underwood,Mcnutt, Pilates and Benjamin who was taken in round 1. 

The need a WR was much bigger. Especially considering this was a week before Hardy beat his GF and before Alexander started failing muitliple drug test. We already had the best D-line on papers before all the unforseen events happened.

 

[SOJA]

The only one you might have a point with is Landry. I do think the Panthers wanted him but I think we thought he would last until the third. 

Hindsight is 20/20. Unless you were screaming at us for taking Kony that day you don't really have an argument. I was excited, Kony has all the tools to be a great DE in this league. He just didn't want to be, that's hard to tell sometimes. 

[Fox007]

"I think there's real value to that pick at No. 60. He was thought to be a first-round defensive end. However, there's a lack of consistency as you watch more game tape." -- Mike Mayock

 

 

Many teams had em with a 1st round grade and his negative was consistency....guess what? The risk didn't pan out this time but with his Sub 4.5 : 40 and Height/Weight Combo you people are hilariously retarded if you didn't think he was going in the 1st or 2nd.

 

Sometimes...CRAZY I KNOW....it's the players fugin fault he doesn't reach his peak. If he can show up on SB and play like that you know he can do it every game if he wants to....well it's on him and he didn't want to.

 

We can get 9 sacks out of some fugin Mario Addison from Troy but not an SEC pass rusher....yea it's on Kony not the staff.

[GoobyPls]

5 minutes ago, Toomers said:

  Sure. Go into 2015 off season with no DE besides CJ and his ridiculous contract,  no cap space to get one, and no better than the # 25 pick in the draft to find a starting DE. And no choice but to pick one and ignore any other position. Good plan. Much better than thinking ahead a little.

How did Ealy and his disappearance act effect CJ contract? And apparently the 40 something pick is better than the 25th to get a DE.

Thinking ahead meant thinking for that 2014 season. In which case drafting Robinson made ten times more sense   

[Toomers]

1 minute ago, GoobyPls said:

Yeah fans watched the comittee watched and they all agreed Sam was better. Last time I checked Ealy didn't SEC dpoy, he wasn't a all American.

 

Like I said as far as college players go it wasn't even close 

And as far as pro players go, which is all that matters here, it was Ealy by a landslide. As for college,  a bunch of voters who look at a sack total without context, or the scouts who broke down every game both played. I'll go with scouts over writers.

[tiger7_88]

1 hour ago, GoobyPls said:

Allen Robinson, Jimmy Garappolo and Jarvis Landry

 

Their were a couple other guys also like John Brown 

The guaranteed accuracy of 100% hindsight.

Amazing!

[panther4life]

2 minutes ago, SOJA said:

The only one you might have a point with is Landry. I do think the Panthers wanted him but I think we thought he would last until the third. 

Hindsight is 20/20. Unless you were screaming at us for taking Kony that day you don't really have an argument. I was excited, Kony has all the tools to be a great DE in this league. He just didn't want to be, that's hard to tell sometimes. 

I absolutely lost it on draft day and know I was not alone. Not going to dig through the archives but feel free to do so if you thi nk I'm lying 

[tiger7_88]

1 hour ago, Castavar said:

I know you can do this for every draft, but Ealy was a WTF pick even at the time.

No, he wasn't.

He was thought to be a fringe-1st, solid-2nd round pick prior to the draft.

DG had just franchised Hardy *knowing* that after Hardy's franchise tag year he was gone, so he was looking ahead to replace him.

There was not a damn thing "WTF" about the Ealy pick except in the minds of the fevered DG haters.

[SOJA]

2 minutes ago, panther4life said:

I absolutely lost it on draft day and know I was not alone. Not going to dig through the archives but feel free to do so if you thi nk I'm lying 

Good for you, my post was more aimed at the collective "you" not you in particular 

[GoobyPls]

4 minutes ago, Toomers said:

And as far as pro players go, which is all that matters here, it was Ealy by a landslide. As for college,  a bunch of voters who look at a sack total without context, or the scouts who broke down every game both played. I'll go with scouts over writers.

I specifically said college but go ahead and change the script. Ealy was drafted off potential not his inconsistent tape 

[*FreeFua*]

14 minutes ago, panther4life said:

I absolutely lost it on draft day and know I was not alone. Not going to dig through the archives but feel free to do so if you thi nk I'm lying 

Join the club.

The "hindsight" club is the best, when all else fails and you have no legitimate argument resort back to "hindsight". It's a sign of throwing in the towel as far as I'm concerned. 

I had Robinson neck and neck with KB. I swore there was no way ARob would be there at 60 and when he was I was shocked, then of course what followed next leads us to where we are today... still looking for that number 2 WR.

I have no problem when people like Toomers just simply admit he whiffed on Ealy, we all have misses but to just scream hindsight... no

[Toomers]

11 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

How did Ealy and his disappearance act effect CJ contract? And apparently the 40 something pick is better than the 25th to get a DE.

Thinking ahead meant thinking for that 2014 season. In which case drafting Robinson made ten times more sense   

  He wouldn't have been drafted!!!! That's what you wanted. So he wouldn't be disappearing. GMan wanted CJ off the books. That's how. And in your scenario, he would have been all we had at DE going into 2015. So we would have been damn near locked in to taking one in first. And what does a 40 something pick have to do with anything? 

[Toomers]

12 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

I specifically said college but go ahead and change the script. Ealy was drafted off potential not his inconsistent tape 

And in college, Ealy was better. Getting 80% of ones sack total in 3 games against weak competition is inconsistent. 

[tiger7_88]

1 hour ago, CWORS said:

Well you can look at players drafted after almost all of DG's picks and say what if! At the time of the Ealy pick we needed a pass rusher! Ealy was obviously at the top of DG's board! He didn't pan out, so DG cut his losses and moved on! Hopefully he gets a dynamic pass rusher in this draft cause we need a young guy bad at this point! 

Agreed.

In 2013, David Bakhtiari was selected the choice after we picked Kugbila in the 4th round.

And, to the specific point of Ealy, why do these same whiners not complain not that we selected Ealy prior to Robinson, but we selected Kelvin Benjamin WAY before Robinson was selected.  Isn't Robinson better than Benjamin?  Why not complain about, instead of picking another receiver, picking the WRONG receiver?  (P.S. The following teams selected WRs in the 2nd round prior to Allen Robinson and Jarvis Landry being chosen, i.e. they passed on Robinson/Landry:  Jacksonville (Marquise Lee), Philadelphia (Jordan Matthews), Seattle (Paul Richardson), Green Bay (Davante Adams), Denver (Cody Latimer).  Golly, I wonder how Gettledouche made those teams select the wrong WR?)

Also, somebody mentioned passing John Brown earlier in the thread.  The selection made in 2014 immediately after Arizona selected John Brown?  Trai Turner, Carolina Panthers.  In HINDSIGHT, who do you think Arizona would rather have of those 2 players today?

Fans whining about players not drafted in hindsight years after the fact are just fans looking for reasons to be miserable.