The McD/Bills/Beane Conspiracy Has Gone National

[bigdog10]

Our fan base has an extremely severe inferiority complex:

"We don't get any respect"

"The league hates us"

"Our owner sales us out for the betterment of the league"

"Our assistant GM is giving away our draft plans"

 

 

[Cj72]

I still don't think that he's a mole because I would think that if it's proven to be true the NFL is going to smack the bills hard. They could even suspend those involved

[Proudiddy]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Correlation doesn't necessarily equal causation. Yeah, it looks questionable on the surface, but gotta remember McD is largely a product of the Gettleman-era Panthers. He has a better idea of who we're going to like than anyone in the league not currently employed by the Panthers and being a product of us, its logical to conclude that he's probably going to like some of the same prospects. I'm sure getting ahead of us was a primary driving factor of those trades, but I doubt it was due to any Beane conspiracy. That's a career ender for Beane if word got out about that.

I would agree, but it just all seems way too convenient.  If he takes the position, and we prove it happened afterward, they'll just be docked draft picks and fined, BUT he'll likely still be the GM of the Buffalo Bills.  And if we can't prove it, then he just set himself up nicely by selling us out.  

Again, I'm happy with the draft, and I like the Samuels pick, and Moton seemed to fit more of a need than Dawkins would have...  It's just the principle.

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

Yeah, but usually it's not as specific as who they have on their board where and what pick they plan on taking them with.  And not all info is good info...  I just heard this morning that Chicago was actually stringing along another team about trading back to keep them from trading up above them, all while fully planning on doing the trade with the Niners.  What makes this so different in my eyes are that it appears the information the Bills had was very specific, and if it really played out as the assumed conspiracy theory would have us believe, then Beane used information strictly meant for our organization for personal gain AND to improve another team's roster in the process.

 But were the Bears really stringing that other team along? There were late rumors that the Browns were heavily considering Trubisky at #1 overall. Had the Browns taken him it's quite possible that the Bears may have been in the market to trade down.

This Beane situation is totally different. Something like that would make him utterly unhireable. Hell, if it's true (which it's almost certainly not) I wouldn't even hire him if I was the Bills. If he was willing to do it FOR you, he'll be willing to do it TO you if the time comes.

[Proudiddy]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

 But were the Bears really stringing that other team along? There were late rumors that the Browns were heavily considering Trubisky at #1 overall. Had the Browns taken him it's quite possible that the Bears may have been in the market to trade down.

This Beane situation is totally different. Something like that would make him utterly unhireable. Hell, if it's true (which it's almost certainly not) I wouldn't even hire him if I was the Bills. If he was willing to do it FOR you, he'll be willing to do it TO you if the time comes.

I'll have to go back and review the report about the Bears in detail, but I believe it was Schefter I had heard it from, and he made it sound really sketchy, as though they never had any intentions of trading back.

But, if it's McD that wanted the info with the guarantee that he would have him brought on as the GM, then why would Beane care about what other teams think about it?  As Belichick has proven time and again, certain FOs, coaches, and organizations will do ANYTHING to gain an advantage.  I have no idea how close McD and Beane are, but I think it's very plausible if they both view this as their "one shot."

[PandaPancake]

19 minutes ago, Hogmolliesmaht said:

We had a great draft, so who cares?

While the statement is true there are people here willing to argue with you on that. I am not one of them,

[countryboi]

Jesus, with just a bit of thinking you can see this doesnt make any sense. Brandon Beane has been given every chance to succeed in the NFL by the Panthers. you dont just burn down the bridge on that type of loyally for the off chance you may get a job. who would ever trust you again? and what happens if you dont get the job?

[Panthero]

if inside info led them to take dion dawkins, then all i can say is thanks. 

same on the zay jones pick. samuel is a much better fit for what we needed, in terms of a home run hitter.

[JawnyBlaze]

If it were true it's waaaaaay different than Ginn giving the saints info or something like that because beanie is still collecting a paycheck from the Panthers. That would be damn near criminal corporate conspiracy. But I HIGHLY doubt it happened. 

[LinvilleGorge]

13 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

I would agree, but it just all seems way too convenient.  If he takes the position, and we prove it happened afterward, they'll just be docked draft picks and fined, BUT he'll likely still be the GM of the Buffalo Bills.  And if we can't prove it, then he just set himself up nicely by selling us out.  

Again, I'm happy with the draft, and I like the Samuels pick, and Moton seemed to fit more of a need than Dawkins would have...  It's just the principle.

Because there's no such thing as one shot. Belichick got fired from CLeveland before he went to N.E. There's always another opportunity out there if you're a worthy candidate. This is the type of thing that would make Beane completely unhireable in the NFL and really, unhireable for any company that do much as runs a Google search on a candidate. He might never work for another reputable company again. It would be the business equivalent of espionage.

[Proudiddy]

24 minutes ago, Hogmolliesmaht said:

We had a great draft, so who cares?

It's the principle.  As I said, I'm a fan of our draft, but this issue, if true, is about an individual giving out the organization's proprietary information for personal gain while improving another team using our organization's hard work - and that is absolutely reprehensible.

[KB_fan]

30 minutes ago, Hogmolliesmaht said:

We had a great draft, so who cares?

Folks are just mad we didn't get Zay Jones.  But I like Samuel better.

[2jakefansinva]

I would think that these two gentlemen have more integrity than to stoop to this level.

[Proudiddy]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Because there's no such thing as one shot. Belichick got fired from CLeveland before he went to N.E. There's always another opportunity out there if you're a worthy candidate. This is the type of thing that would make Beane completely unhireable in the NFL and really, unhireable for any company that do much as runs a Google search on a candidate. He might never work for another reputable company again. It would be the business equivalent of espionage.

All true... I just think there is an awful lot of coincidences involved that make it hard to believe it's not more than that.  And again, I go back to the end of the presser after Day 2 where one of the reporters asked DG if we would've taken Dawkins instead of Moton had he been there and Dave just shrugged it off and said he couldn't answer that.  I didn't really think much of it at the time, but then seeing them trade in front of us twice to take guys we were rumored to be highly interested in, it just seems all too convenient.