I get the idea behind the Dave firing but...

[Snake]

JR saw DG as a problem because his style didn't mesh with how the Panthers operate. JR has always made carolina a second home to players and developed a culture that inspired players to stay. The down side to that was giving out poor contracts to keep aging icons. Dave was the boogie man so to speak. He made the hard decision and allowed Rivera and JR to coddle players. When Dave went for his next hard decision it would not stand with JR. This was so anti JR that he had to make a move. The down side to this is that we now have no one to be the bad guy and players will have no fear. With JR firing Dave he came out and said do what you want. If the staff crosses you I will fire them. Get use to the fact in the near future we will once again see players on the side line smiling while we go 6-10. This is the culture that has risen once again. 

[therealmjl]

I'm fairly certain this stance has been discussed already.

[Bronn]

I'm sorry, but I don't buy that you'll ever see Cam Newton smiling on the sideline if we're a losing team in the dumpster.

[Peppers90 NC]

This article is pretty decent, I am sure we will get over it eventually.

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000820390/article/dave-gettlemans-firing-shows-gms-must-be-skilled-managers

[Snake]

5 minutes ago, Peppers90 NC said:

This article is pretty decent, I am sure we will get over it eventually.

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000820390/article/dave-gettlemans-firing-shows-gms-must-be-skilled-managers

Depends, what future we have. Most fans are not going to be happy about going back to the Hurney era. 

[Peppers90 NC]

1 minute ago, Snake said:

Depends, what future we have. Most fans are not going to be happy about going back to the Hurney era. 

Its a lazy assumption to assume thats where we are heading but not out of the realm of possibility. I would like to think the organization has grown from that but with an aging owner, one that sounds like he wants a yes man, it may be a tough job to fill with a quality GM.

[rhyslloyd]

Carolina is a good place for players to get comfortable on and off the field.  

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Peppers90 NC said:

Its a lazy assumption to assume thats where we are heading but not out of the realm of possibility. I would like to think the organization has grown from that but with an aging owner, one that sounds like he wants a yes man, it may be a tough job to fill with a quality GM.

Take this job and you're working to manage players while stuck between a coach and an owner who are both known to take their side, even to extreme levels.

Would you want that job?

[Jangler]

5 minutes ago, Peppers90 NC said:

Its a lazy assumption to assume thats where we are heading but not out of the realm of possibility. I would like to think the organization has grown from that but with an aging owner, one that sounds like he wants a yes man, it may be a tough job to fill with a quality GM.

really? if it's true, the players made a power play and won. mediocre play for a contract.

[Snake]

4 minutes ago, Peppers90 NC said:

Its a lazy assumption to assume thats where we are heading but not out of the realm of possibility. I would like to think the organization has grown from that but with an aging owner, one that sounds like he wants a yes man, it may be a tough job to fill with a quality GM.

How is it lazy? What is Jr's goals? If they were to win a SB why fire the guy that had the best record of any GM we have had? I mean I love Davis but when you slow down teams move on and that's football. 

[Peppers90 NC]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Take this job and you're working to manage players while stuck between a coach and an owner who are both known to take their side, even to extreme levels.

Would you want that job?

Yea if it was an offer i didnt deserve or was ready for yet but not if I knew what I was doing and had a long term plan and could separate business from some family environment. This isnt a paper company or anything, it's ever-changing business where people's careers are short and your customers are very impatient people that have short-sided views and expectations.

[Peppers90 NC]

4 minutes ago, Jangler said:

really? if it's true, the players made a power play and won. mediocre play for a contract.

thats what I am afraid of, the players now have taken control or at least feel they have.

[KSpan]

1 minute ago, Jangler said:

really? if it's true, the players made a power play and won. mediocre play for a contract.

I'd be very disappointed to learn that the players had a proactive role in the decision and that JR didn't just decide to pull the trigger himself, particularly if they took it to JR directly.

[Snake]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Take this job and you're working to manage players while stuck between a coach and an owner who are both known to take their side, even to extreme levels.

Would you want that job?

And this is why there is a high probability Hurney returns. He knows the job even though he was bad at it.