Pros and Cons of Hurney

[Catufb85]

With the unexpected firing of Gettleman on Monday and the hiring of Hurney as of today as the interim GM.  I have mixed feelings about it all.  Because of my loyalty to my beloved Panthers (PSL seats since 1997) I have to say i was utterly shocked by the surprised firing of Gettleman.  I bought into the "In Gettleman we trust" one because i think he makes harsh and sometimes questionable decisions when it came to personnel.  However, I do believe overall body of worked reviewed, he did a good job here at Carolina during his stay.  He complied a talented team that went 15-1 and came close to what should've been the young franchise's second Super Bowl (Fug the Patriots.)  What my opinion happened was not that he wasn't good at his eye for talent or getting us out of "Cap Hell" from Hurney's spending habits, but when the most crucial decisions that needed to be made whether right or wrong his portrayal of those decisions, right or wrong, and his ego is what ultimately got him fired, IMO.  How he handled some of the Panthers all time best players, Smitty, Norman, DeAngelo, etc. just came down to ego more than i think money and CAP space. Now, one can sit here and say "shoulda woulda coulda" or well those three guys were "cancers" to the locker room, whatever.  The handling of arguably the best wide receiver (franchises leader), the best running back (franchise leader) and the best cornerback our franchise as had in many years waived, released, forced out, etc. whatever you think of it was handled wrong. Not saying ultimately wrong but handled incorrectly, again IMO. 

This is why all of these previous Panthers players are openly attacking Gettleman after the firing news.  However, Devil's advocate would say "Well, maybe these guys are just butt hurt" or "It was the best move because they are old and overpaid" well maybe.  But, you have to wonder if more and more players are coming out after the firing their stories and hatred for Gettleman has to gain some kind of warrant.

Now, on to Hurney, we can all admit that there are some glaring decisions his made as far as personnel and contracts and so now that were as sour as a blue Warhead (for all you 80's kids) but lets look at the major acquisitions and draft picks he did hit home runs on:

Hurney's best moves:

Draft: Julius Peppers, Thomas Davis, Jordan Gross, DeAngelo, JStew, Chris Gamble, Ryan Kahlil, Charles Johnson

Free Agent Sigings: Jake, Ricky Proehl, Ken Lucas, Mike Wahle and few others i didn't feel like listing.

I think Marty's downfall was his management of Cap space.  Every hangs over him the Everrtt Brown and Armanti Edwards draft picks as the catalyst to their negative opinion.

I think Marty was the best short term and short notice candidate.  I think he would make a great President, but think we should look for another long term GM candidate.

I think this team that G-Man put in place for this year is going to be a good one and definitely competitive.  My slightest concern is with the contract extensions coming up hopefully Marty has learned from his mistakes.

Keep Pounding.

 

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

Pros: I can dust off my old Hurney memes, Free Sundays

Cons: Literally everything else

[Ace_Aladdin]

1 minute ago, Catufb85 said:

Hurney's best moves:

You forgot Cam and Luke

[The Huddler]

To me, its not so much hurney

 

 

its the complete backtrack we took from a conpetent GM back to a yes man. The SAME yesman. You cant backtrack any harder than that  

Just proves we as an organization do not take winning seriously enough to get past the feelings of our older vets.  We are left with good soft feelings instead of the thrill of winning championships. 

 

 

[Jon Snow]

Dude, you can polish this turd all you want but you cannot get the smell off of it and in the end is still a turd.  But be my guest and continue to try to rationalize it because it's so funny to watch.

[Ace_Aladdin]

1 minute ago, Bogart said:

Dude, you can polish this turd all you want but you cannot get the smell off of it and in the end is still a turd.  But be my guest and continue to try to rationalize it because it's so funny to watch.

I don't what your taking about I see Granola bar with healthy vitamins and nutrients , you should get your mind out the gutter and get some fresh air 

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

Just now, Bogart said:

Dude, you can polish this turd all you want but you cannot get the smell off of it and in the end is still a turd.  But be my guest and continue to try to rationalize it because it's so funny to watch.

I love the people who are noodling themselves into thinking that this is actually a good idea.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=4092544

Friendly reminder to the defense force.

[imminent rogaine]

Points for Luke but Cam was a no brainer. We had the number 1 pick because he did literally the absolute worst job of assembling a team the year before.

Also, big knock for Pickles. With those tiny hands, he always looked like a bust and drafting him and armanti showed that we had no clue what we were doing.

[vanilla B]

1 minute ago, sanjay_rajput said:

I don't what your taking about I see Granola bar with healthy vitamins and nutrients , you should get your mind out the gutter and get some fresh air 

I'm thinking you must be pretty young, or not a fan of the team for too long, to not understand exactly what Hurney did to this franchise and why so many people do not want him in any position of power here.

[Ace_Aladdin]

1 minute ago, imminent rogaine said:

Points for Luke but Cam was a no brainer. We had the number 1 pick because he did literally the absolute worst job of assembling a team the year before.

Also, big knock for Pickles. With those tiny hands, he always looked like a bust and drafting him and armanti showed that we had no clue what we were doing.

 Ron and coaches will help with scouting and getting the value in lower rounds 

[Jon Snow]

Pro: he was gone.

Con: he is back.

[scpanther22]

The 09 draft...

[Ace_Aladdin]

Just now, vanilla B said:

I'm thinking you must be pretty young, or not a fan of the team for too long, to not understand exactly what Hurney did to this franchise and why so many people do not want him in any position of power here.

I don't think you understand life where smart ppl adapt and hone their craft. It's kind of like athetles in their career 

[yasuhara2241]

Pros: Knows staff and many players. Good history on 1st round stars. 

Cons: Too loyal to own players, crazy draft trades mortgaging future, bad at rounds 2 - 7 and undrafted FAs, doesn't find too many quality low end FAs, bad negotiating contracts, looks at present team and less at the future ramifications.