Gettleman left us with one last “FU” this offseason

[AggieLean]

Matt Kalil was a horrible signing

[TylerDurden]

Also, if Hurney didnt get credit for Gettleman winning with his franchise cornerstones, who do we attribute this atrocity to for losing with Gettleman's roster?

Buh, buh, buh, he said cute stuff and was a fuging mrat and potatoes, dyed in the wool "football guy."

[Cpt slay a ho]

I'm at the point now where if we have to give up future picks idgaf, just get a blue chip ot or wr in here asap.

[beastson]

Our oline is atrocious. I think the @AceBoogie said it best

Cam leading rusher = 0-2

[JoePanther]

How are the O-linemen who were here last year doing with their new teams? Isn't one of them in Minnesota and doing better? 

[Glitchh H]

But at least with Dave we'd have the second coming of John Casey kicking for us for the next 15 years.

[Glitchh H]

20 minutes ago, beastson said:

Our oline is atrocious. I think the @AceBoogie said it best

Cam leading rusher = 0-2

If our stuck in the mud HC would give CAP a chance we might have a running game.

[AggieLean]

Really goes back to what many of us were saying right after Gettleman was fired. Both Hurney and Gettleman weren't that good.

Im hoping we can finally get a good GM in here, but I doubt that. I doubt it because you still have JR running this team. Many of us have said for years that he is, if not the problem, one of the main issues that holds this team back.

[The Righteous Troll]

8 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

Really goes back to what many of us were saying right after Gettleman was fired. Both Hurney and Gettleman weren't that good.

Im hoping we can finally get a good GM in here, but I doubt that. I doubt it because you still have JR running this team. Many of us have said for years that he is, if not the problem, one of the main issues that holds this team back.

Hurney was a solid GM. Taking Cam, trading for Olsen, pciking Luke, draft Munnerlyn in like the 6th round.

 

His problem was signing big contracts when they were in that weird CBA thing.

 

Gettleman wasted the entire 2016 NFL draft trying to replace Josh Norman and paid way too much $$$ to Matt Kalil. 

[AggieLean]

6 minutes ago, The Righteous Troll said:

Hurney was a solid GM. Taking Cam, trading for Olsen, pciking Luke, draft Munnerlyn in like the 6th round.

 

His problem was signing big contracts when they were in that weird CBA thing.

 

Gettleman wasted the entire 2016 NFL draft trying to replace Josh Norman and paid way too much $$$ to Matt Kalil. 

I think Hurney was about average, or slightly below average. The things many people put on Hurney, as far as the bad, I don't put on him. The big contracts he handed out where more of a JR thing imo. JR deserves the blame for that. Another downside to Hurney, imo, is complacency easily finds it way into the locker room.

Gettleman was average to me, as well. Average to slightly below average. Despite what his admirers think, his attitude and the way he treated players was toxic and had the potential to really get bad. To add on to that, he made quite a few questionable roster moves that hurt the team. I don't care what anyone says, but going from 15-1 to 6-10 is unacceptable, just like unfranchising Norman was an overreaction that played a part in us having a terrible season. 

I just want Carolina to get a GM that maybe combines both of the best qualities Hurney and Gettleman have/had. I doubt it, but I'm hoping that happens. JR should've fired Gettleman quicker, so we could've kept Beane.

[amcoolio]

It doesn't matter what CMC or any running back does,if there are two defenders in the backfield immediately after the ball is snapped. Are you guys watching the games?

And its not just talent, its scheme. Opposing teams KNOW what we are doing. Our own coaches are saying time and time again "Its execution, not play calling". Our coaching staff is basically expecting our players to just will their way out there. Its the exact same scheme since 2013. Its embarrassing and the players are getting their poo kicked in because of this.

[ichigo1057]

Lol at all the people bringing up Gettleman right now. Remember that Gettleman was let go before training camp which means that he had nothing to do with the final roster for this team. We went through training camp with Hurney at the GM position. That means that he was responsible for cutting down the team and then for post training camp free agency as well. Is Gettleman guilt free...no most certainly not but what is on the field right now is just as much Hurney since he has done very little to help the same things you people are bashing Gettleman for. Oh and for the people talking poo about CMC, he is an amazing player but nobody could run the ball efficiently behind the Oline we have right now with the terribly predictable play calling from Shula.

[rico6]

2 minutes ago, ichigo1057 said:

Lol at all the people bringing up Gettleman right now. Remember that Gettleman was let go before training camp which means that he had nothing to do with the final roster for this team. We went through training camp with Hurney at the GM position. That means that he was responsible for cutting down the team and then for post training camp free agency as well. Is Gettleman guilt free...no most certainly not but what is on the field right now is just as much Hurney since he has done very little to help the same things you people are bashing Gettleman for. Oh and for the people talking poo about CMC, he is an amazing player but nobody could run the ball efficiently behind the Oline we have right now with the terribly predictable play calling from Shula.

Reeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaach

[Chimera]

2 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

Ironically all the pro bowl players from the 2015 team were Hurney guys 

I was always impressed with how he drafted Short and Turner after he'd been fired, then drafted Coleman and Tolbert when he ninja GM'ed for other teams.

 

What a great guy, that Hurney.