Olsen Says Shula isn’t the Problem and the Critics Have No Idea What’s Really Going On

[PrimeTimeHeel]

4 minutes ago, lightsout said:

The design of the runs isn't the issue. From a technical football aspect, it's fine. It's the calls and lack of adjusting and it's clear that not game planning for the team you're facing that week is a terrible idea if you want to win consistently and convincingly. 

This team needs a better staff. That's simply all there is to it. Good play calling can hide weak players on the field. Seen it in every single team in the league except this one.

No its more than the design of the runs. The problem is we are running on heavy fronts / stacked boxes in obvious running formations and downs. 

[lightsout]

37 minutes ago, PrimeTimeHeel said:

No its more than the design of the runs. The problem is we are running on heavy fronts / stacked boxes in obvious running formations and downs. 

 

I know. I said it's not the design that is the problem, it's play selection. You can run on 8 man fronts and on obvious downs. But you have to 1) not call the same run that has failed all game and 2) execute the blocking. We do neither of these two. 

[PrimeTimeHeel]

5 minutes ago, lightsout said:

 

I know. I said it's not the design that is the problem, it's play selection. You can run on 8 man fronts and on obvious downs. But you have to 1) not call the same run that has failed all game and 2) execute the blocking. We do neither of these two. 

Running on an 8 man box in an obvious run formation when its 1st down is a bad play call. 

You want to run when the defense is thinking and defending pass. You always want to have them off guard and have the advantage. 

Only time I would do these runs is when it is like 2nd and 2 or 3rd and 1. Sure bang it on in there. 

But 1st and 10? Hell no. 

Also, we do not really have good run blocking to begin with. So thinking you can run like this is just stupid. 

 

[Snake]

Everyone is going to defend Shula because he is a nice guy. Just like players bitched when Hurney was fired. I rarely take what a current player has to say with value. When two of your former All Pro WRs start speaking out... 

[HardcoreDefense]

He doesn't necessarily have to go out and bash him. I believe most of his statements are correct. Our players can do better. We are lacking execution on offense and players are constantly making simple mistakes. There have been numerous occasions this season where players are lost and have no idea what to do or who to block.  

But as a team captain and one of JR's favorites, Good Guy Greg shouldn't fear the consequences. I just hate being fed bs. We may not realize what's happening behind closed doors but we witness it on Sunday. When it's multiple players struggling with poor execution, miscommunication, or uncertainty of what to do on a play, that is a reflection on the coaching. Yes, Shula has called some good games but he just isn't consistent at it. 

The ship isn't sinking yet so I don't expect anyone to start bashing. It's just a bit frustrating seeing the same problems recur every single season. 

[Jangler]

meh, Tony Dungy is in the know.

 

[Khyber53]

Maybe Olsen deserves enough respect to listen to what he says. I'm upset with the results so far on offense, but I certainly don't know as much about this offense as he does.

[ok2h8pep]

Ok so Greg says the scheme is good but the execution is the problem?  Isn't that STILL a coaching issue?

Clean house.  The Roster is NOT the problem.

[Marguide]

4 hours ago, saX man said:

 

I just feel like there's something kind of off within the team as a group this year, which is more important than many think.  

Something is off and it's being kept quiet IMO.    

I have been thinking the same thing.

Something is not right.

[NJPanthers12]

Yeah, I'm not trusting a guy who had issues with Gettleman and supports Shula.

[Jmac]

6 hours ago, HardcoreDefense said:

So due to our past offensive success with Shula, Greg believes Shula has proven to be a good offensive coordinator and everyone is overacting.  To sum everything up Olsen says,

"I've think we've shown around here that we've been a very good offense, so I think a lot of that is the typical overreaction to bad games,"

"That's the easy way out, that's the easy critique for people who watching from a distance don't really have an idea of what's going on. That's the easy solution to everybody who doesn't have much knowledge of what we're actually doing, so I think that's careless."

He goes on by saying, “I'm watching as a spectator like everybody is right now. I just think it's a slippery slope (when) everyone has their solutions when you really have no idea – and I'm putting myself in that same boat,"

"I haven't been part of a game plan and meetings, so it's hard for me to sit up there and say, 'This should’ve' and 'that should’ve.' I don't know either, and I know a lot more about this offense than everybody else in the bleachers."

Greg’s solution to the problem is simply playing better and stopping the mistakes.

"Watching the tape, knowing what our offense is and what we're trying to get done, we have to play better. We have to stop making mistakes. We have to make plays that are there. We have to block better, run better. It sounds cliché and simple, but that's really what it is.”

So, do you all believe Olsen is being honest by saying the struggle on offense is mainly due to players mistakes and poor execution? Reading this article, he truly seems satisfied with Shula’s scheme and isn’t throwing shade at all. Or is he trying to be a good player by protecting Shula from getting the boot even if he is the problem?

Are we simply “overacting” and as spectators aren’t qualified to criticize a team since we have no idea what’s going on behind closed doors?

Link to the article http://www.panthers.com/news/article-2/Greg-Olsen-defends-Panthers-offense/a9153902-40f4-46ec-a8d1-f29232e2705a

 

3 points is 3 points.....cant sugar coat it.

[Toker Smurf]

Apparently, no one on the coaching staff knows what's really going on either.

[rawrunning]

Olsen has always said the "right thing". If Cam said this, I might believe the players actually think this. But reality is Olsen and Kuechly both were taught to say nothing controversial to media, and that's obviously what's happening here. 

 

[Davidson Deac II]

Fans sometimes put way to much emphasis on play calling.  I do agree in general that lack of execution is a far bigger problem than playcalling.  That being said, the offensive coordinator is partially responsible for the lack of execution.